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post #1231 of 1461
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 Dat wabi-sabi tho

Funny, that's pretty much what my wife said at the time. Every cloud and all that though... now my Skagways have ended up as the perfect focal point for our karesansui.

 

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 I dont think thats much more than the shoe its self not matching the way you may walk.

 

But but VSIVIM told me I should have expected this type of deterioration! Think I'm going to complain about my Kiefer's not exhibiting the same behaviour - they've lasted me 8 years now.

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The Keifer sole is different. I have a few pairs of Skagways, and I always shoegoo the edges of the sole before wearing them.  Otherwise, they hold up pretty well for a year or so, but they do wear and split in much the same was as Converse do.  

 

I personally wear them until they are beat and just don't worry about them.  If you can't do this, is better to go with a lot of their other models with much more durable soles, including the goodwear welted Skayways and the Foley, or maybe, if you can find them, the Porcella.

post #1233 of 1461
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

The Keifer sole is different. I have a few pairs of Skagways, and I always shoegoo the edges of the sole before wearing them.  Otherwise, they hold up pretty well for a year or so, but they do wear and split in much the same was as Converse do.

Where on the edges do you shoe goo? Having a hard time visualizing it
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Where on the edges do you shoe goo? Having a hard time visualizing it

I just brush it (actually, I use Freesole, which is clear), on the bottom edge, where the sole meets the sidewalls.  Takes about 10 hours to dry completely, and it prevents (to some degree) the sideway from separating from the sole.  Completely worth it, imo.  That 

post #1235 of 1461
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post
 

The Keifer sole is different. I have a few pairs of Skagways, and I always shoegoo the edges of the sole before wearing them.  Otherwise, they hold up pretty well for a year or so, but they do wear and split in much the same was as Converse do.  

 

I personally wear them until they are beat and just don't worry about them.  If you can't do this, is better to go with a lot of their other models with much more durable soles, including the goodwear welted Skayways and the Foley, or maybe, if you can find them, the Porcella.

 

Yeah, even though they superficially look similar to the Keifers, when you look closely at how the Skagway sole is constructed it's obvious they are not built to last. This was my first pair of Skagways and after the longevity of my Keifers/Virgils/Patricians etc I guess I was expecting more of the same. Shame, as it kind of turned me off Visvim altogether after so many years. One lives and learns, or at least lives.

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Yeah, even though they superficially look similar to the Keifers, when you look closely at how the Skagway sole is constructed it's obvious they are not built to last. This was my first pair of Skagways and after the longevity of my Keifers/Virgils/Patricians etc I guess I was expecting more of the same. Shame, as it kind of turned me off Visvim altogether after so many years. One lives and learns, or at least lives.

Some of their shoes are meant to last, some to get beat to shit and continue to be worn that way.  The Skagways are the latter.  On the other hand, I have had a pair of Gris mocs that have been beast that have taken all sorts of beatings.

post #1237 of 1461
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post
 

Some of their shoes are meant to last, some to get beat to shit and continue to be worn that way.  The Skagways are the latter.

When plonking down around 400 bucks on a pair of shoes it would be nice to know beforehand which camp they fell into ;-) Maybe all the fine folks here could contribute their knowledge and we could compile a definitive list.

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When plonking down around 400 bucks on a pair of shoes it would be nice to know beforehand which camp they fell into ;-) Maybe all the fine folks here could contribute their knowledge and we could compile a definitive list.

ime. pretty much every non-sneaker I have falls into the "lasts" category, though. honestly, they are not like Vibergs or something that is actually meant to see hard wear. That said, they are considerably more comfortable, for the most part.  The non-Goodyear welated Skagways and Logans break down faster.

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So does the deterioration make the Skagways unwearable or is it more a cosmetic thing?. Wondering if I should use LA Guy's method or not.

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It's more cosmetic than anything, just wear them. What can happen is the heel tabs that are stitched on can kinda rip off fairly early if they dont wear with the rest of the sole. some shoe goo patches that up
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So does the deterioration make the Skagways unwearable or is it more a cosmetic thing?. Wondering if I should use LA Guy's method or not.

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It's more cosmetic than anything, just wear them. What can happen is the heel tabs that are stitched on can kinda rip off fairly early if they dont wear with the rest of the sole. some shoe goo patches that up

Purely cosmetic.  If you are not into the beat up look, and like your kicks pristine,  Skagways are probably not for you,  but yeah, ime. after the initial wear, they are fine.  Maybe a quick glue repair here and there, but they will not fall apart completely.  They just reach a certain state of decay and stay there.

post #1243 of 1461

If anyone has a Visvim backpack they are looking to part with that is in excellent condition please let me know. I'm happy to check any out.

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http://shop.suitsense.com/collections/vendors?page=7&q=visvim

 

is this site legit?

Yes suitsense is legit. 

post #1245 of 1461

By the way do any of you guys have any spare dust bags I could buy off you? I recently purchased some Scriptura folks and Patrician WT-Lo's from S/S 2012 and both came without packaging.

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