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post #106 of 258
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Originally Posted by Fycus View Post

Size down half on virgils, i cant say it enough. I don't know why people suggest tts or going with sneaker size. they stretch really fast after like 3 wears and the toebox is pretty forgiving. If they feel loose to you, I can guarantee they are. I've owned grizzlies and virgils that were a half size big and while they didn't feel too long or anything my foot was able to move around in the shoe a bunch. Sizing down .5 solves that issue entirely.

 

Hm, while my foot doesn't move around if I tie them up pretty good, the toe box is pretty roomy.  Which I guess makes sense because it's a round toe.  The heel has room too, but doesn't move, considering the ankle is tied...

 

Is this what you mean, or were you really sliding around in them TTS?

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post #107 of 258
Thanks chimpskibot

Honestly everyone has different feet, but its safe to say if you have narrow feet size down .5 wider feet go TTS
post #108 of 258
I have wider feet and I still go down .5. I can wear comfortably without lacing the ankle, but lace the ankle anyways. Unless you guys actually feel your toes hit the front of the shoe you shuold be fine going .5 down, it definitely sounds like they were sized too big.
post #109 of 258

sucks being a 12 since theres no half sizes to go up or down on hah. got a 12 skagway though so ill see how it fits. on that skag bandwagon

post #110 of 258
Will there be a Elmendorf in the Fall/Winter collection?
post #111 of 258
Thread Starter 
I dunno. I think you guys are being really neurotic. Ever since I wore DBSS sneakers with the 1-2-3 sizing, it just doesn't bother me if things aren't a perfect fit, and honestly I think that is a much better system to work with. There are lots of ways to solve fit problems-- different socks, insoles, etc. I think a lot of people still say TTS on Virgs, but maybe half a size down works well for others, but I would absolutely hate half a size down on mine. Then there's the fact that different leathers will stretch differently, as well as people preferring different fits that make sizing advice on the internet almost useless. I think it is much better to just be namaste and shit about fit, work around it (wool socks are comfortable in summer too), and unless you are wearing the boots barefoot (yuck), then just go with the flow and not worry
post #112 of 258
I'm okay with being neurotic if it means spending $700-$1000 on boots and having them fit perfectly. That honestly isn't too much to ask and I'm sure many other people would agree that it pays to size correctly. If you want to wear a size up and have to buy insoles or any other garbage that's fine, but visvim 's shoes are made with cork footbeds so you're essentially doubling up on an insole if you add something. Not to mention the leather footbed will be covered by an insole so you can't enjoy the perks. I can do mine barefoot or with socks, both fit comfortably and I don't have a bunch of extra room in the shoe.
post #113 of 258
Thread Starter 
True, I will definitely agree that it's worth it on sizing correctly. But no one here seems to have a problem with extreme sizing problems-- it's like half a size difference, which I think is very reasonable considering individual differences in feet and fit preferences. I'm just talking about the neurosis that affects a lot of styleforum...finding a perfect fit, which I think is very difficult and lofty for most. I think you've figured yours out for Visvim since you've bought so much and have experimented for so long, but I think when you're new to brands there's no point in searching for perfect fits or asking for advice to find such a fit unless you tried it on and then wore it for a while. Life is much easier when you are just OK with these things that affect very little. If your feet were sliding around a lot, that doesn't sound like a half size difference to me...

I'm not saying that people should buy random sizes or size up fully, it's just that .5 down won't work for everyone (like me and a few other posters here), nor will TTS work for everyone (you, dbear, twork), but I think TTS is a bit safer option since half a size too large is easier to solve than half a size too small. This is why I have been wanting lots of people to input on their sizing preferences to have a good compendium of sizing knowledge, so people can make their own choices. If you feel like it's a half size too big, buy a Saphir leather insole and that solves everything while still giving you the benefits of leather footbed. Boom. Done. Or sell your Virgs and buy a new pair half a size down. Whatevs.. FWIW I went TTS on kudu virgs and calf okie-folk and they are perfect barefoot or with socks, and I don't use lacing at the ankle at all.

my posts are mostly in response to this. i'm not saying you are wrong or anything at all.
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Originally Posted by Fycus View Post

Size down half on virgils, i cant say it enough. I don't know why people suggest tts or going with sneaker size. they stretch really fast after like 3 wears and the toebox is pretty forgiving. If they feel loose to you, I can guarantee they are. I've owned grizzlies and virgils that were a half size big and while they didn't feel too long or anything my foot was able to move around in the shoe a bunch. Sizing down .5 solves that issue entirely.

Edited by g transistor - 7/16/14 at 3:40pm
post #114 of 258
I'm on the same page, sometimes its not worth obsessing over. Every style of boot will fit differently as well, some require adjusting sizing accordingly depending on foot shape.
post #115 of 258
Got these plain toes off ebay for 200. Sorry for the editing lol



They don't make fakes of these do they?
post #116 of 258
there are fakes but those look just beat rather than fake
post #117 of 258
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Anybody here just buy these on eBay? [...]

Yeah, I did. Then a few hours later he refunds me and says "Whoops I already sold it a few days ago to someone else."

 

I'm kinda new to eBay and its etiquette but... that did not make me happy.

post #118 of 258
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Yeah, I did. Then a few hours later he refunds me and says "Whoops I already sold it a few days ago to someone else."

I'm kinda new to eBay and its etiquette but... that did not make me happy.
Give him some bad feedback that's horrible business
post #119 of 258
Those plaintoe lows are one of the more common fakes, I would avoid at all costs:

-plaintoe low
-fbt mastermind or 73 7 hole mastermind
-patrician perf with fabric laces (real ones come with leather laces)
-suede virgils with striped fabric tag at tongue and vibram christy sole
-serra boots
-virgil crepe

All the above models have been heavily faked, and if they are still for sale and in new condition are likely fake. use your resources to verify any purchases. I cannot verify those plaintoes, but play it safe...
post #120 of 258
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Originally Posted by chimpskibot View Post


Give him some bad feedback that's horrible business

 

I can't remember for sure, but I don't think you can give bad feedback if they refund you, only neutral (or none at all?).

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