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You: Fancy coming back to my place for Pizza and a shag?

Her: No

You: What? You don't like Pizza?

I've had the same sort of problems... and here's what I've done (Let's just say I'm a recovering AFC): TALK TO PEOPLE, ANYONE, EVERYONE!
Jjust get into the habit of speaking with anyone anywhere anytime. and especially speak with a lot of ugly girls, people you have no intention of dating, hooking up with, or maybe even being friends with. Just get into the habit of opening up and you'll start to naturally get the swing of things... and you won't be nervous or anything because it's almost like you're doing them a favor talking to them, hell, you're the best thing to happen to them all day!
Anyway, once you get comfortable with that, then that pretty girl? well she's just another person and you've met a million jsut like her, so talking with her is no big deal. There's probably a bunch of guys out there who think she's not that hot and wouldn't get nervous speaking with her, so why should you? and if it doesn't go well, we both know there's million other girls out there who are just as hot. anyway, good luck to ya.

Great idea!

One pet peeve I've had is when people use music as a conversation starter. I have never resorted to this and find it uber cheezballs.

That is one of the lessons in classes on self help. They will typically have you go to a park or city block and start conversations with as many random people as possible.

A fun and easy way to get started:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxCEPbqbei8

I do the same exact thing haha.

a good conversation opener would be sharing about all your fun and wonderful memories on styleforum , chatting with others on the internet and all the buffoonery and wisecracks ,etc. she should have a blast listening to you!!!!

My thoughts exactly!!!! Try to avoid exclamations like " OH MY GOD! FAAAABULOUS or You Go Girl"

Oh she will love you... but just to shop with and talk to you about the guy she is currently sleeping with

Is that your real nose?
You have beautiful eyes, especially the left one.
etc

nice nails. are they fake? well, they are nice anyway.

It's called a "neg".

demonstration of higher values.

Immature, insecure women should flock to you.

If the goal is purely to get laid - and I dont see why thats such a bad thing in your early years - having immature, insecure women flocking to you is more than half the battle.

I had an old man tell me boy if you knew what you were doing you'd grab her by the crotch and say want to go get a piZZa and fuck. Didn't work. Not saying it won't, but it didn't.

[quote=untilted]It's called a "neg".QUOTE]
Mmmm, before delving too deep into a bunch of different styles and techniques (because there is a tonne of stuff out there and if you want master the game it can take years) I would really just sort of do it naturally...
if you engage in enough social interaction, you'll intuitively just start to notice what works and what doesn't, and it'll be a whole lot more natural then just trying out stuff that isn't really you. So you're welcome to read up on all the advice out there, but I would really just recomend going out there and practicing all the time. Try out some fun ideas (be a little spontaneous) and then at teh end of each encounter, just think to yourself "ok, what worked there, and what didn't". Keep refining yourself.

Like many have said here the two most important things in dealing with women are patience and a short memory. If you don't hit it off immediately with a girl just let it go and don't blame yourself, usually it has more to do with circumstances than with anything you said.

If you do hit it off I've noticed its often best to walk away the first or second time. Girls are so used to guys being overzealous that if you can walk away from a good conversation without asking for a phone number or a date, girls will be surprised and it will set you apart from others. She will remember you the next time you run into each other and then you will find it much easier to move forward. This only works of course if you see the girl again.

Forcing the issue is never, never the way to go. If you feel you have to then the girl is not for you. If you can convince yourself of this then you are ahead of the game. My 2 cents.