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I know the shoes are corrected grain...but Putting in another plug for my cousin here. I am related to the seller of this pair of shoes and have seen these shoes in person that he is selling. They were purchased from a Patrick James store in California (I don't know specifically which store). These shoes no scratches or other flaws that I could see. Shoes are not factory seconds. Thanks for looking. I'll get him to join this forum yet.