Originally Posted by Toiletduck
I never really understood/agreed with the ladder theory. W/ most of my later friends, there was always sexual tension, and I had always leveraged the "friendzone" to snag chicks.....
If there's sexual tension, you're not in the friendzone. The friendzone is defined as a zone where they consider you only
as a friend. (Although if you can maintain sexual tension long enough that you are considered as a friendwithtension, then one can't help but wonder why you didn't snag them earlier...)
Originally Posted by mainy
Stop treating these hot chicks like your best friends. Treat them like hot chicks that you want to bone. Look at guys you know that are successful with women - what are they doing in their spare time? Probably hanging out with their group of friends, which will include girls but usually it's girls they ARE involved with or HAVE been involved with. The average guy doesn't want to hang out with a bunch of attractive women that he is just friends with. As politically incorrect as it sounds, that makes you look gay. That makes the women view you as a woman. Stop acting like a woman and be a man, and maybe they will be attracted to you. Not only are you fighting the friendzone, you're fighting for respect as a man and for these girls to acknowledge you are a desirable heterosexual male with sexual desires of your own - you are more than a shoulder to cry on. Don't let the females walk all over you.
I agree with all this, but it makes me wonder: In an ideal world, female friends would set you up with their friends. For the most part they don't; even if you've independently dated some of their friends, flirt a lot, etc. Why is this? (Or maybe they do once you reach an age of deafening biological clocks?)