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post #31 of 38
I've gotten worse info re: the Peales. I was told, "Well, Peale makes them of course." I didn't have the heart to tell him that Peale doesn't really exist anymore.
post #32 of 38
I agree that we should do our best to support Alden.  When you think of all the established apparel companies that have closed up shop in America, supporting the few remaining is in the best interest of anyone who likes clothing.  Thinking only of Brooks' traditional suppliers, Pincus Brothers Maxwell, the Philadelphia-based tailored clothing company, recently departed for Mexico.  PBM made many of Brooks' "luxury" sportcoats, camel hair, etc.  Norman Hilton, the century-old suitmaker in New Jersey, outright folded (though Nick Hilton carries on with some goods made in Italy).  Majer trousers has moved offshore.  Hell, you can't buy a pair of Levis that was made in America. Another note on Alden and Brooks:  The shell cordovan penny loafer sold by Brooks is a design exclusive to Brooks.  While there is an externally similar penny loafer in the Alden-branded line, it differs in one large and at least one small way.  Only the Brooks version is unlined.  In addition, the Brooks version has heel foxing unique to Brooks' shoes.  It is also found on the tassel loafer.
post #33 of 38
Brooks Brothers Alden shell cord penny loafers and no iron shirts OK.  The other day I was in BB and was told that what is done to make the cotton shirts no-iron is that something is "baked" into the fabric.  I don't know what that means but I can confirm that it works.  Sort of like dipping a shirt in starch and then ironing it. The two shirts I have are quite well made.  I like the roominess and have become accustomed to it.  Other shirts feel too snug.  I agree that $75 is kind of high but these shirts should last at least, what, 5 years?  or more?  With a little ingenuity discounts can be had. I've always eyed the BB/Alden shell cordovan penny loafers and appreciated them.  In 1989 I bought a pair of the Aldens in calf and wore them for about 10 years.  Have had them re-soled about 3 or four times.  Still have them but a full rebuild would cost half the price of a new pair... Back to the cordovans--yes the BB's are unlined and the Aldens are lined.  The lining of the Aldens would seem to make them more comfortable and longer lasting and hence better value, though something about the Brooks just makes them so... attractive.  What do you think?  Anyone out there wearing a pair? Markus
post #34 of 38
The lined Alden shell cordovan penny loafer and Brooks' unlined version are different enough that a guy owning both would not view them as redundant. Back to the early comment about shirring the cuffs of shirts: I suspect the new owners received a load of unpleasant mail when they introduced the higher end shirts with a pleated sleeve and a two-button cuff. Both are anathema to Brooks purists. Recently, the catalogue has begun making a point of describing shirts as having shirred sleeves, possibly a gesture to recover lost credibility.
post #35 of 38
The Brooks cordovans last a long time and can be refurbished by Alden. I think it's a style preference.
post #36 of 38
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OK. The other day I was in BB and was told that what is done to make the cotton shirts no-iron is that something is "baked" into the fabric. I don't know what that means but I can confirm that it works. Sort of like dipping a shirt in starch and then ironing it.
I bought a couple of these no-iron shirts two or three years ago, and I can confirm that they hardly ever require ironing or steaming. The downside is that the treatment given to the fabric significantly reduces the material's ability to breathe. This has made wearing the shirts less than enjoyable at times. Based on this I would not buy the shirt again, as useful as the no-iron fabric is.
post #37 of 38
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The Brooks cordovans last a long time and can be refurbished by Alden. I think it's a style preference.
So, 'Fly, Which ones do you have ? Why did you make that choice? Not trying to be nosy, just curious. Markus
post #38 of 38
Note other post on the cordovan subject. I have loafers in black and burgundy and the plain lace up blucher.
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