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Does pricing include fabric cost?
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Does pricing include fabric cost?

Not sure what pricing you are referring to. US mtm pricing has not been published yet.
post #333 of 393
I've come across this offering recently via Insta.

Can someone tell me the popularity behind the offering. Yes the instagrams of people wearing bntailor is nice.

But for the pricepoint of 1.6k gbp for a suit - If i wanted a british suit I would go to the row (1.5k W&S), and if I wanted italian I would go to neopolitan tailors who have been plying their trade for countless tested years.

​What makes a 1.6k gbp suit, with someone taking measurements whos not the actual cutter, and then a production in south korea worth the while?
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What is the issue with it being made by South Koreans, exactly? It isn't farmed out to some factory; everything is in house and many of the men doing the sewing have been working with Park for over two decades. South Korea isn't a third world country any more; it's certainly more advanced than Italy and has a higher cost of living.

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The cutter has always done my measurements and fittings (JY Park, not his younger son, who also cuts). And I think it's now pretty common practice at a number of established firms to have people who aren't cutters taking measurements, isn't it?

Anyway, I don't know what the price is abroad, but if people like Robin and Joe are doing good jobs with measurements and fittings, I guess I don't see the issue with the price they charge provided the customer likes their style.

Unless you still attach some sort of stigma to Made in Korea.
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No stigma at all.

From my basic and naive knowledge as someone looking at dropping 1.5k -2k on ultimately cloth moulded to my body Im just curious. My style is modern and liberal, hence Im fine with the british style for businesswear but for soft tailoring - Im looking at dropping the cashmoneys on italian. Not sure why I would drop it on this...thats my point

post #336 of 393

Have you read the thread from the first page?

post #337 of 393
@dng992: please show examples, British or Italian, of makers that can make a comparable garment in this price range. I am curious, but I am not expecting much...

I am not a B&T customer, nor have I handled any of their garments, but from what I've seen online from them over the years, they may be one of the finest tailors in this price range. And if there's any connotation to be associated with South Korea in this contect, it's that it seems to be birthplace of some fine tailors lately (B&T's not alone).
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@dng992: please show examples, British or Italian, of makers that can make a comparable garment in this price range. I am curious, but I am not expecting much...

I am not a B&T customer, nor have I handled any of their garments, but from what I've seen online from them over the years, they may be one of the finest tailors in this price range. And if there's any connotation to be associated with South Korea in this contect, it's that it seems to be birthplace of some fine tailors lately (B&T's not alone).

These are the three that I am eyeing

italian
http://www.permanentstyle.co.uk/2011/12/sartoria-vergallo-a-visit-to-varese.html

sartoria solito - http://41.media.tumblr.com/d52ef8d6b8ad81682bd55bac0d5cfdf5/tumblr_inline_nw9058hQB11qfex1b_500.jpg

british
http://www.permanentstyle.co.uk/2016/02/whitcomb-shaftesbury-final-suit-great-value-bespoke.html#comment-1361824

what you saying ?

post #339 of 393
I am saying that none of these three comes close in terms of fit/handwork/garment..... by a long shot. And that's even if you look at the garments they made for SC, for which, presumably, they put some (extra) effort in.

Also, think Solito's pricing (and reliability) may be in a different ballpark.

Up to you of course, but if you don't see how much better B&T is, you're probably better off going to one of those three.
post #340 of 393

I think these are good options, if you like those particular styles. Bntailor's stuff is cut differently. I suppose it all comes down to what style you prefer. If you like Bntailor's house style, you'd be hard pressed to find something in that price range that equals them in terms of craftsmanship and quality. Even though Robin is a friend, I can honestly say that the suits he's taken measurements for and fitted are second to none of the tailors you mentioned, fit wise.
post #341 of 393
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Originally Posted by dng992 View Post

I've come across this offering recently via Insta.

Can someone tell me the popularity behind the offering. Yes the instagrams of people wearing bntailor is nice.

But for the pricepoint of 1.6k gbp for a suit - If i wanted a british suit I would go to the row (1.5k W&S), and if I wanted italian I would go to neopolitan tailors who have been plying their trade for countless tested years.

​What makes a 1.6k gbp suit, with someone taking measurements whos not the actual cutter, and then a production in south korea worth the while?


If you wanted a british suit, you are right, you shouldn't buy B&T. If you want neapolitan, you are right, you should go neapolitan.

 

I am not sure your point. If you like B&T, their silhouette, then you get B&T. That why you get them. Its like asking 'why get Rubinacci, you can get neapolitan for less". Yes of course,but I want the Rubinacci silhouette..

 

Also, the tailors you posted don't visit the west coast... so the options are pretty irrelevant for most of us posting here. Also Solito has (or had) a habit of taking your money and not bringing a suit. So that tends to be rather important.

 

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​What makes a 1.6k gbp suit, with someone taking measurements whos not the actual cutter,

This happens at many places in Italy. Oh wait, Rubinacci too!
post #342 of 393
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Also, the tailors you posted don't visit the west coast... so the options are pretty irrelevant for most of us posting here. ...

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post #343 of 393

Well its true!

 

Murl, Six, Justin, Clags (to some extent - they don't visit texas), etc etc

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Well its true!

Murl, Six, Justin, Clags (to some extent - they don't visit texas), etc etc

What? Are they coming here?
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What? Are they coming here?


No, dng992 was offering alternatives to B&T and asking why people don't go to those instead. And I'm saying its not relevant to us because the people he mentioned don't visit where we are. (not to mention the aesthetics are totally different)

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