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It doesn't take that much to be formal here; to wear an ensemble would fall under that category. Wearing a tie certainly does. Almost only the king wears one at a regular basis, ministers - not always. Commoners, never. 
You must remember we are a homogeneous country of peasants and fishermen. Until we found oil some few years ago, now we are spending money like drunken sailors.
In some professions maybe; lawyers and stockbrokers, but for ordinary people it is not common to be dressed; people tend to wear the same: causal jeans/chinos, sneakers and t-shirt with a pullover, maybe a casual flannel shirt, unbuttoned at the top and every now and then not tucked in - except national day, x-mass, and events like weddings and funerals. Then people dress up in a suit or national costume.
Sweden is quite different when it comes to clothing, much more rigid. Denmark not so much...

Then I think you must admit that your country is an outlier. Even in the context of a casualizing world. If that is the case then I think it's misleading to say that my fit is at all formal. You'd only be able to say that Norwegians have a highly casualized idea of formality which you could then say informs your response. However you can't make the claim that my fit is objectively too formal for an OCBD shirt.
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Then I think you must admit that your country is an outlier. Even in the context of a casualizing world. If that is the case then I think it's misleading to say that my fit is at all formal. You'd only be able to say that Norwegians have a highly casualized idea of formality which you could then say informs your response. However you can't make the claim that my fit is objectively too formal for an OCBD shirt.

 

Don't think so. Malaysia, Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Phillipines, India, China are just a few countries that comes to mind.In many of these places, long-sleeve shirts and slacks without tie is already over the border of formality.

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Most of Latin America as well

 

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Don't think so. Malaysia, Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Phillipines, India, China are just a few countries that comes to mind.In many of these places, long-sleeve shirts and slacks without tie is already over the border of formality.

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Today

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Most of Latin America as well

 

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Don't think so. Malaysia, Singapore, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Phillipines, India, China are just a few countries that comes to mind.In many of these places, long-sleeve shirts and slacks without tie is already over the border of fo

 

Eastern Europe as well. And I'd say that apart from some professions, where traditional and formal dress code is strictly enforced, wearing a jacket with a tie would be considered rather formal than casual in most of the Europe too.

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Then I think you must admit that your country is an outlier. Even in the context of a casualizing world. If that is the case then I think it's misleading to say that my fit is at all formal. You'd only be able to say that Norwegians have a highly casualized idea of formality which you could then say informs your response. However you can't make the claim that my fit is objectively too formal for an OCBD shirt.

 

We lack culture and are uncivilized. Even have our own letters.  

Besides that, as you might not remember, we have discussed at an earlier stage, my troubles with BD. I don't fancy them with tie.

And even more besides that; I'm never objectively, always highly subjectively. Best way to be. :-)

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I'm ardently pro-casual in the workplace as long as the clothing is neat and clean.

I don't know that many Americans would consider CM's outfit formal. I suspect many would consider him dressed up though.
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#81. From last Friday.

 

 

Coccinella - Maker's Shirt - Ascot of Germany - Henry Carter

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Interesting discussion regarding formality. As work dress codes become more relaxed, "men's classic" attire becomes more of an act of individual self-expression.

 

The unfortunate corollary of this is that, expressions of individuality being frowned upon in many work settings, casual dress becomes a uniform - exactly the opposite of what was supposed to be achieved by relaxing those codes.

 

The upside is that men's classic attire has become much more interesting, with a worldwide upswell of interest in quality tailoring, accessorising, grooming and styling. Hence, I guess, the success of StyleForum itself.

 

The common ground between MC and SW&D tribes, as seen on this forum, is that we care about our clothes and how we wear them. The majority of men don't really want to expend any effort, other than the minimum required to "fit in".

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Interesting discussion regarding formality. As work dress codes become more relaxed, "men's classic" attire becomes more of an act of individual self-expression.

 

I would agree with this. It certainly describes my case and how I'm viewed, I think, in my place of work.

 

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The unfortunate corollary of this is that, expressions of individuality being frowned upon in many work settings, casual dress becomes a uniform - exactly the opposite of what was supposed to be achieved by relaxing those codes.

 

Also true. While an anecdote does not qualify as data, when I worked at Yahoo for a couple of years a decade or so ago, a majority of the management team within engineering wore white crew-neck t-shirts under a polo shirt. I had never seen more than one or two people do that at any other place I'd worked and yet at Yahoo if you didn't wear a white crew neck T under a polo you most definitely didn't fit in. It was the weirdest thing, but not the weirdest thing about Yahoo.

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Today.

 

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* Suitsupply
* Tyrwhitt
* tie from Embassy of Elegance
* Berwick shoes
 
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@blekit, I think the patterns of tie and suit, while not actually clashing, are simply too strong for each other. Both pieces are visually sumptuous, and either on its own would ideally feature as the centrepiece of an outfit, with all other elements being somewhat bland and playing purely supporting roles.

 

You are certainly choosing your purchases well these days. I like that tie in particular.

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#82. Late afternoon sunlight. Taken with my iCrap7, which has so far not self-immolated.

 

 

 

 

Henry Bucks (possibly by Baldassari) - Ballantyne - Henry Carter - Kamakura - Seiko - Brax - G&G

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@blekit, I think the patterns of tie and suit, while not actually clashing, are simply too strong for each other. Both pieces are visually sumptuous, and either on its own would ideally feature as the centrepiece of an outfit, with all other elements being somewhat bland and playing purely supporting roles.

 

You are certainly choosing your purchases well these days. I like that tie in particular.

 

I actually chose a grey PoW tie first but it wasn't a good fit for the blue shirt - if I reached for a white one instead, that would be the one I'd wear today. I went with this one because - in my opinion - the colors of the suit, shirt and tie play well together and the patterns are not clashing. To not overdo things I resigned from ps today. Perhaps you are right and the tie and suit are quite a lot by themselves, but I was aiming at "power look" and I am quite pleased with the end result. Still, it's great to hear your opinion, I'll keep it in mind next time I pick up this suit.

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Fully agree with caustic man regarding formality, it is not because the world is casualizing itself rapidly that we should forget or lower the perception of formality.

Today quite formal then



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