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 Originally posted by EliodA
 
   While we're on the subject of ties, @Coxsackie@Caustic Man is right, you know.

 

No he's not. I am.

 

More specifically, nobody is right. Or wrong. Some ties are truly hideous. Some are SF-approved. And some are fine, but not liked here. Hal Freeman's tie is fine, but it's not going to get a lot of traction here, simply because of herdthink.

 

I couldn't give a fuck about herdthink and I think that tie is fine. Not only that - it's absolutely the right tie for the rest of Hal's outfit.

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I was 96% joking with Wiggles, but agree with Elio on Mcfox. I have that Vanda and despite it being a "grenadine shantung" it's much more the latter and I don't think it looks congruent with a flannel suit.
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You agree that slubby ties should be burned? Good man.
post #42454 of 44073
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

You agree that slubby ties should be burned? Good man.

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Originally Posted by jcmeyer View Post

I was 96% joking with Wiggles, but agree with Elio on Mcfox. I have that Vanda and despite it being a "grenadine shantung" it's much more the latter and I don't think it looks congruent with a flannel suit.
I'm curious - why? Seasonality? Weight?
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Originally Posted by Coxsackie View Post
 

 

No he's not. I am.

 

More specifically, nobody is right. Or wrong. Some ties are truly hideous. Some are SF-approved. And some are fine, but not liked here. Hal Freeman's tie is fine, but it's not going to get a lot of traction here, simply because of herdthink.

 

I couldn't give a fuck about herdthink and I think that tie is fine. Not only that - it's absolutely the right tie for the rest of Hal's outfit.

Agree. IMO there is too much herdthink apparent in SF over all these years. Most of the fits are frankly getting really boring, not because they are bad, but basically from sheer repetition of a few basic themes. Not helped when subjective opinions of "ugly" gets delivered "caustically"- a deliberate attempt to be obnoxious is a bit stale.

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Originally Posted by sebastian mcfox View Post

I'm curious - why? Seasonality? Weight?

Probably silly, but I've completely bought into slubs going exclusively with S/S outfits. Maybe because they aren't soft or smooth, which is what F/W is to me (tweed notwithstanding, but also not right with shantung). That Vanda is actually pretty heavy as you well know, but the weave is really loose. The fact that your suit is flannel chalk stripe, which is even more serious, probably makes it harder for me to like that tie here - the dots feel too big to stay with the theme.

Or something like that.
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What about heavily textured ties, e.g. silk bourettes or woollens? To me, these are classic autumn/winter textures, but their roughness and three-dimensionality is similar to that of slubs (e.g. raw silks).

 

And where do knits fit into all this?

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Yeah, I dunno, I'm too tired to come up with any kind of coherent response or structure around it... and considering I had to look up what silk bourette even was I'm very clearly no @TweedyProf when it comes to these matters. Night, y'all.
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A delightfully cool and rainy Monday at the crazy insane James Bond Villain's Lair that is Palmaz Winery in Napa. Great tour and excellent wine.

 


Suit: Hemrajani

Shirt: Proper Cloth

Cravat: Cravat Club

Square: Drake's

Shoes: Edward Green

Hat: John Penman

Arm Candy: Mrs Andy57

post #42461 of 44073
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Originally Posted by Coxsackie View Post
 

 

No he's not. I am.

 

More specifically, nobody is right. Or wrong. Some ties are truly hideous. Some are SF-approved. And some are fine, but not liked here. Hal Freeman's tie is fine, but it's not going to get a lot of traction here, simply because of herdthink.

 

I couldn't give a fuck about herdthink and I think that tie is fine. Not only that - it's absolutely the right tie for the rest of Hal's outfit.

 

First of all, thank you for the kind words sir. Additionally, I did not expect to cause this much discussion over my tie.. my apologies. I appreciate the input from all you people though, whether you lot like it or not. But, I will have to agree with Mr. @Coxsackie though, and he is right. I believe that everybody just has their own opinions. It's just that one man's 'ugly', is another man's 'beautiful'-- and there is nothing wrong with that to be honest.

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Originally Posted by Andy57 View Post
 

A delightfully cool and rainy Monday at the crazy insane James Bond Villain's Lair that is Palmaz Winery in Napa. Great tour and excellent wine.

 


Suit: Hemrajani

Shirt: Proper Cloth

Cravat: Cravat Club

Square: Drake's

Shoes: Edward Green

Hat: John Penman

Arm Candy: Mrs Andy57

 

 

 That waistcoat looks sharp with those lapels sir! Would have never thought an ascot of that colour would go with a suit that colour and you pull it off quite well if I may say. Good to see you and the missus had a good time.

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Originally Posted by jcmeyer View Post

Probably silly, but I've completely bought into slubs going exclusively with S/S outfits. Maybe because they aren't soft or smooth, which is what F/W is to me (tweed notwithstanding, but also not right with shantung). That Vanda is actually pretty heavy as you well know, but the weave is really loose. The fact that your suit is flannel chalk stripe, which is even more serious, probably makes it harder for me to like that tie here - the dots feel too big to stay with the theme.

Or something like that.
Interesting, before I started thinking more about what I wore, I assumed slubs were A/W material for the very reason you believe they are not. To me, A/W is about texture, roughness, durability (think tweed, corduroy, flannel etc) and summer is about light, smooth fabrics. Both preconceptions can be challenged and dismissed, of course, but my point is there is no inherent reason why slubs should be reserved for warm weather (at least to the layperson).

As for the slub/chalkstripe incongruency, I could try and spin a line about the connection between warm weather, lightweight flannels (as 11oz presumably was back in the day) and sporting stripes (as per the Vox congruency guide), but I think that might be a long bow to draw smile.gif

I don't think I've seen another flannel suit in my office, let alone the entire area I work in, so I suspect if I'm trying to fly under the radar a slubby tie is the least of my worries when wearing a three-piece, chalkstripe flannel suit.
Edited by sebastian mcfox - 10/7/16 at 12:05am
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Originally Posted by Coxsackie View Post
 

 

Hal Freeman's tie is fine, but it's not going to get a lot of traction here, simply because of herdthink.

 

That's a silly assumption. You know as well as I do that I often wear ties that are not "SF approved", however you might define that. Yet I still think Hal's is ugly. It's one thing to like a tie that I don't like, but it's another thing to suggest that all who don't like it are kool-aid drinkers.

 

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It really is a hideous tie, though.
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My submission for the Stars and Stripes Friday challenge.
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