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It has become the time of year when I tell slub-haters to avert their eyes.
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My wine shantung with dots is better than yours because mine is both shantung and grenadine, which is #menswear2Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

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#menswearplusone
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Give those loafers to Goodwill.....quickly.
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My wine shantung with dots is better than yours because mine is both shantung and grenadine, which is #menswear2Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

It needs to be seven-fold, handrolled and unlined, made bespoke in Napoli and delivered late to the annoyance of all involved parties. Only then will you have maximized #menswear.

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It needs to be seven-fold, handrolled and unlined, made bespoke in Napoli and delivered late to the annoyance of all involved parties. Only then will you have maximized #menswear.

And only after the artisan tie maker has called you an egghead and threatened to sue you for complaining online about his work.
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(Trigger Warning:Rolled Buttonholes)

Sitting around in the Malibu Lumber Yard waiting for my friend to get though looking at shoes.


Brooks Brothers camel hair jacket, sweater vest, and pink OCBD shirt, Lands' End tie, Robert Talbott pocket square, Orvis trousers, Gold Toe socks, and Allen-Edmonds shoes.

The piece of a person picture plus pizza and prosecco and Tra Di Noi in the Malibu Country Mart. (Yes, my friend puts ice cubes in her prosecco.)


For those who might be wondering, I ate my pizza with my fingers (I'm from California) and my fried ate hers with a knife and fork (she's from Palm Beach).

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Re: trigger warnings

I didn't really get what they were, though I knew enough about the internet to know they weren't as big a deal as what the internet makes them out to be, or why they are necessary until last month. I'm helping on a study which is pretty far afield from what I research; a series of questions measured blatant prejudicial attitudes towards African-Americans. There were several black students taking the survey, though the vast majority of the subjects were white. A black woman later reported feeling very uncomfortable knowing that the white people around her were potentially expressing racist views, albeit anonymously, towards her race. This led to an anxiety attack due to a recent racist experience (I won't go into detail, suffice to say her PTSD is justified).

I don't know how IRB let this possibility slip past unnoticed, but we've revised our protocols and added a trigger warning.

In this case, they can not participate. But from what I understand of trigger warnings, their infrequent use is not to warm students so that they may leave but to allow them time to mentally prepare for possible "triggering" material.

There are a lot of ex-military at my school. Many suffer from PTSD. I'd not call them pussies for wanting some warning before analyzing and discussing this image, for example Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

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Wednesday.  Linen sport coat.  Pink shirt.  

 

 

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Re: trigger warnings

I didn't really get what they were, though I knew enough about the internet to know they weren't as big a deal as what the internet makes them out to be, or why they are necessary until last month. I'm helping on a study which is pretty far afield from what I research; a series of questions measured blatant prejudicial attitudes towards African-Americans. There were several black students taking the survey, though the vast majority of the subjects were white. A black woman later reported feeling very uncomfortable knowing that the white people around her were potentially expressing racist views, albeit anonymously, towards her race. This led to an anxiety attack due to a recent racist experience (I won't go into detail, suffice to say her PTSD is justified).

I don't know how IRB let this possibility slip past unnoticed, but we've revised our protocols and added a trigger warning.

In this case, they can not participate. But from what I understand of trigger warnings, their infrequent use is not to warm students so that they may leave but to allow them time to mentally prepare for possible "triggering" material.

There are a lot of ex-military at my school. Many suffer from PTSD. I'd not call them pussies for wanting some warning before analyzing and discussing this image, for example Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

As someone who does not have PTSD, I'd still like some warning before viewing this image on a thread about menswear.  :(

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As someone who's been to afghanistan twice, I think when seeing people talk about anonymous surveys (and the vastly irrational fear that someone would be racist because they're white--A RACIST OPINION IN AND OF ITSELF) somehow causing massive PTSD attacks, that's my cue to GTFO.

 

It's been fun, but (please pardon my french) just what in the actual fuck is going on here?  This is a thread about what people wore today, and we're talking about racists who think others are being racist toward them simply because they happen to be white, and that causes them to have "PTSD" attacks?

 

Give me a fucking break.  This is why so many veterans can't stand to be around civilians.....apologies for  anyone I may have "triggered" with my harsh words.  Tell your doctor the PTSD is all the big bad meanie on the internet's fault, or something......

 

Carry on gents.  I'll be in the AE thread, where this kind of weenie-tastic fuckery doesn't happen.

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Off topic response, so
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Did you not actually read the post (or realize that it was an off topic aside, one made with the knowledge that there a number of academics in this thread and that this thread occasionally branches into non-sartorial topics)? The survey itself wasn't a source of trauma. A past event was which anybody, soldier or no, would recognize as traumatic, was the source of the trauma. And it wasn't that she felt people around her were racist. It was that people around her were answering questions like "Would you be okay with a family member having sexual relations with an African-American" made her uncomfortable, understandably, and that in turn triggered a reaction.

Should a woman repeatedly molested as a child be warned that her criminal justice class will be spending the next week discussing pedophilia? Absolutely.

Should a man beaten half to death for being black be warned that an American history class will be discussing Strange Fruit? Absolutely.

Should they be excused from participating? No they shouldn't.

My initial off topic post was in response to the misconceptions regarding trigger warnings, one which I until very recently shared and one it appears you also hold
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Re: trigger warnings...


I don't know how IRB let this possibility slip past unnoticed, but we've revised our protocols and added a trigger warning.

In this case, they can not participate. ....
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I'm new, so I don't understand how this Viet Nam era photograph relates to menswear.  And, I'm not sure how an organization can protect one person from the perceived thoughts of another. 

 

In context of the critiques in this thread, it does seem odd that you will bias the survey by allowing participants to opt out because they fear what others might be thinking.

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Really, Clags, you should have spoilered that post with a trigger warning for entitled white males.

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I'm new, so I don't understand how this Viet Nam era photograph relates to menswear.  And, I'm not sure how an organization can protect one person from the perceived thoughts of another. 

In context of the critiques in this thread, it does seem odd that you will bias the survey by allowing participants to opt out because they fear what others might be thinking.

You are required to let people opt out for any reason. And we aren't actually using the African-American responses anyway.

But it's not a study I am deeply involved, thankfully. Prejudice and workplace discrimination doesn't really do it for me research-wise
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Speaking of triggers, wow...
Admittedly an odd tangent to have gone off on.
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