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You definitely should. The right DB makes all the difference and you need to understand what you like in terms of the style.

My understanding that fit is even more key with DB compared to SB. I've been trying on RTW DB suits lately, trying to get a feel. Those that have fit well have felt awesome to try on.

Please, if you could elaborate a bit on what you mean by "need to understand what you like in terms of the style"?

Cheers,
Epicure
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Ok, but it takes a lot to fire someone in this day and age. It's not as simple as not fitting in, especially in a society as litigious as we have in the West.

 

Actually its quite easy so long as they are not under contract (the only other exception being unionized workers). Of course, the reason for termination is never "they didn't fit in". 

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Actually its quite easy so long as they are not under contract (the only other exception being unionized workers). Of course, the reason for termination is never "they didn't fit in". 

Succinctly highlighting the realistic vs the optimistic view. nod[1].gif
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Actually its quite easy so long as they are not under contract (the only other exception being unionized workers). Of course, the reason for termination is never "they didn't fit in". 


My SO has been in HR for several large companies and it is rarely as simple as you make it sound. Labor laws and the DoL restrict these things very closely. If there is the slightest hint of impropriety then a lawsuit may result. I'm not saying everyone sues their employer, but the largest employers are always very careful with whom they fire and for what. Especially, as I mentioned, if certain company policies are vague.

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My SO has been in HR for several large companies and it is rarely as simple as you make it sound. Labor laws and the DoL restrict these things very closely. If there is the slightest hint of impropriety then a lawsuit may result. I'm not saying everyone sues their employer, but the largest employers are always very careful with whom they fire and for what. Especially, as I mentioned, if certain company policies are vague.

 

Im sorry but that again is incorrect.

 

Unless you are under contract where there are specific terms of good cause for termination you are typically classified as an "at-will-employee"...at which point your employer can terminate you at any time and without reason. It is better to have this in writing...but even this may not necessary. 

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You didn't like Punk, did you?
I tumbed this comment, although I think Punk and related things did somewhat get style back on track, after monstrosities of 70s.


Not only did I like punk - I was a punk! (A thoroughly middle-class one, of course...like 99% of them.)

 


Note the leather pents. Some of my hairstyles were way more extreme than the above.

 

Actually I think Punk was really the last great, totally original fashion movement. It incorporated not just the clothes, the hair, the piercings and the make-up, but also an entire attitude. And of course, its soundtrack was a highly rebellious musical genre all of its own.

 

Interestingly, the entire thing was cooked up by Vivienne Westwood and Malcolm McLaren - with some help from Johnny Rotten, of course.

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I recently have moved to slightly fuller cut trousers because they are more comfortable, even though I think they are less aesthetically pleasing. So, there's that I guess.

 

I recently have moved to slightly fuller cut trousers because I've become a fat old bastard. Unfortunately I think they are less aesthetically pleasing. There, that's my guess ;) 

 

Edit: @Coxsackie that's a great pic!

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I recently have moved to slightly fuller cut trousers because I've become a fat old bastard. Unfortunately I think they are less aesthetically pleasing. There, that's my guess ;) 

 

Such cruel. So honesty. Wow.

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Not only did I like punk - I was a punk! (A thoroughly middle-class one, of course...like 99% of them.)

 

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Note the leather pents. Some of my hairstyles were way more extreme than the above.

 

Actually I think Punk was really the last great, totally original fashion movement. It incorporated not just the clothes, the hair, the piercings and the make-up, but also an entire attitude. And of course, its soundtrack was a highly rebellious musical genre all of its own.

 

Interestingly, the entire thing was cooked up by Vivienne Westwood and Malcolm McLaren - with some help from Johnny Rotten, of course.

 

 

And not to forget, Punk brought back suit jacket, although bad fitting, with skinny lapels and short :lol:

 

Cox, you have deserved my respect for life. I was playing guitar, but was told I suck (even for punk band) and was downgraded to drummer ( I am a bit younger, so my take was more of a post-punk, but inspiration was Clash, a bit of Joy Division.... You get the idea).

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@sugarbutch Nice palette and textures.
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I recently have moved to slightly fuller cut trousers because I've become a fat old bastard. Unfortunately I think they are less aesthetically pleasing. There, that's my guess wink.gif

I am pretty sure that you have always been a fat old bastard. I do hope you are at least enjoying your new trousers though.

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Note the leather pents. Some of my hairstyles were way more extreme than the above.

 

Actually I think Punk was really the last great, totally original fashion movement. It incorporated not just the clothes, the hair, the piercings and the make-up, but also an entire attitude. And of course, its soundtrack was a highly rebellious musical genre all of its own.

 

Interestingly, the entire thing was cooked up by Vivienne Westwood and Malcolm McLaren - with some help from Johnny Rotten, of course.

 

 

And, this will win Friday challenge, if you decide to participate :slayer:

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Ok, well I don't know that I would feel overdressed wearing jeans and an OCBD when others are wearing jeans and polos. Dressing better doesn't necessarily mean being overdressed. I tend to get the impression that @blekit really is overdressed for the context in which he operates. He has mentioned that his colleagues wear t-shirts to work and he wears jackets and ties. Wearing a BD shirt and occasionally throwing on a sport coat hardly bucks the status quo as the both of you have expressed it IMO.

 

Most of the guys around my workplace wear shirts and chinos. The dress code states, that no denim is allowed and shirts are obligatory. Of course there are some guys who ignore those rules and wear polos, t-shirts with or without sweaters and jeans, but most of them adjusts to the rules. Some guys wear jackets/suits like me, though ties are rarity. But the point is, that the way I look at this it's the other guys who are underdressed for work and I'm not going to lower my standards just to conform. As you yourself stated - dressing well doesn't mean you're overdressed.

 

Frankly at this point I'd feel bad and out of place in a professional situation without at least jacket. I obviously skip the jacket/suit & tie when I go to the gym or squash or when I'm going out to grab a beer with my friends.  But work is work and there reactions to my style are so far only positive, especially when I'm interacting with people from non-IT departments. 

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People that don't mesh with the corporate culture usually get the axe.

 

Edit: Understandably this applies more in some fields than others...but dress can certainly be considered part of the culture. 

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Ok, but it takes a lot to fire someone in this day and age. It's not as simple as not fitting in, especially in a society as litigious as we have in the West.

If I got fired that'd probably be the most stressful 15-30 minutes of my life. But in the end I'm sure that I'd be ok.
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Generally speaking, I believe that getting fired is either not stressful at all or stressful for far longer than 15 or 30 minutes. But yes, in the end, most people are, in fact, OK.
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Just caught wind of this thread. Being fired can be relaxing if you are without guilt or culpability.

Unfortunately having great tailoring in this day and age can be perceived as being over-dressed to many.

In addition, being fairly fit, as guys in this forum are, is unconsciously perceived as being overdressed. Yes we are living with barbarians who as an industry standard put lipstick on pigs.
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