Been super busy this past week, here's a quickie
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Great use of an orange tie.
These pictures should probably go in the casual thread, but I couldn't find it and I'm wearing a tailored jacket, so here we are. Gloomy weather in the Bay Area, which matches my "under the weather" demeanor today. So I eschewed a tie and opted for cosy and warm. It also gave me an excuse to wear my new favorite scarf maybe once more this season.
An orange watch, texture, and shoes (Click to show)
Andy, Thank you very much for the feedback. I don't want to clutter up WAYWRN with the following, but other may find it helpful:
I certainly think that some of the issue may be the pose, here I am a while ago wearing a navy suit with similar issues in the pants:
I decided to try these pants on and look at them without a pose to see if it was any better:
The effect I think is better, but there is certainly still quite a bit of wrinkling. However, I decided to try some braces on and test a theory:
While not perfect, I think with braces the fit is dramatically improved. I am definitely pear-shaped and my wife remarked that with braces it looks like I've lost 10 lbs.
The funny thing is that the khaki trousers I am wearing today are actually looser than these navy ones.
So, due to your feedback, on Thursday the tailor will receive all of my trousers with instructions to sew braces buttons into every pair.
Thank you. It will be a shame to lose the belt aspect of the outfits, but I am more concerned with the fit. Too bad it is so taboo to wear both. :)
As a follow-up question for anybody: Is it wrong to keep belt loops on pants if i'm not going to wear a belt?
Purists will frown on it, and I guess I’m enough of a purist to prefer (I’m choosing my words carefully) not to have unused belt loops, but not enough of a purist for it to be a deal breaker.
The only time people will be able to see them is when you’re sitting, since when standing you should usually have your jacket buttoned. But even when you’re sitting you’re often sitting behind something (a desk, a table, or some such) so they still won’t be able to see them.
So my general principle is that issues involving the area of the trouser waistband aren’t nearly as serious as problems with an item of apparel which is always visible regardless of your situation. So, for example, there’s no avoiding the consequences of a bad tie choice.
So, in short, I wouldn’t worry too much about it. YMMV.
As you know, braces almost always improve the drape of trousers, as they do here.
Still, if you can manage it in future purchases, you'd benefit from a bit more room.
(1) Note how the crease disappears mid-thigh. A trouser crease is a beautiful thing, and yours are being strangled at birth.
(2) The creases in the crotch suggest that the seat is too tight. A photo from the back might confirm.
I sympathize, by the way, with the difficulty of finding classic-fitting trousers these days. I'm skinny and even I still find most OTR trousers too tight in the leg. Much to the distress of my bank account, almost all of my new purchases over the past couple of years have been custom or MTM for that reason.
These are subtleties, of course. In other respects it's a lovely suit and you wear it well.
Yikes. Well, I agree that the effect of adding braces helps quite a bit, but as @Academic2 has implied, long term you might want to consider a roomier cut to your trousers. I've pretty much moved away from flat-front dress pants myself, and the use of belts, too. I have settled on double forward pleats with only braces for any trousers that are meant to have a crease. It's more comfortable and the trousers hang and drape better.
While you're having buttons sewn into all your trousers, you might consider having the rear pair of buttons sewn on the outside of the waistband. It's a lot more comfortable.
This may tie in somewhat to Andy's point, but these pants in question do not appear to even need braces. I can't speak to where they (the pants) sit, but they appear to be a relatively low rise pair, which, to me, does not look good at all with braces.
If all you pants are cut in a similar style, I would consider foregoing braces with them, and having some pants with a higher rise made to accommodate them...
Note: this comes from a dude who prefers his waistband to hit at/slightly above the navel, so take it with the necessary grain of salt.