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In fact I am.
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In all seriousness, that's easy for you to say. You dress well. You're like that physics professor who just can't understand why students aren't getting quantum mechanics. "It's so simple and easy! Isn't it?" Well no, it isn't. Especially not for new folks. In that sense, yes, navy trousers are difficult to pull off.

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It's a Brooks Brothers silk twill tie (not satin). The suit is navy.
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If you think navy pants are hard to wear, you do too.

 

Your conveniently picking half of the arguement up.  My point is that  combining them with a grey jacket is challenging.  And that the OP didn't do it very well, nor were the examples he provided very good.  Which is what I wrote.  


You're not wrong, but you could have selected better examples. They abound.
I speak for expert dressers everywhere. Navy pants do not require years of apprenticeship nor a particularly notable amount of bravery. There are several cowards here who where them well.

 

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Combining them with a grey jacket is in fact the easiest way to wear navy pants.
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Combining them with a grey jacket is in fact the easiest way to wear navy pants.


Exactly. The easiest way to wear it is complicated in other ways.

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@Theo Prof ugly tie, bro. It brings down what otherwise is a decent fit.

I think my crappy iPhone pics are failing to do the tie justice. It really is a nice Brooks Brothers, repp sort of weave, twill tie. I'll see if I can post a better pic when I finally get out of this meeting.
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I think my crappy iPhone pics are failing to do the tie justice. It really is a nice Brooks Brothers, repp sort of weave, twill tie. I'll see if I can post a better pic when I finally get out of this meeting.


Could be, but I don't like solid silver ties. If you had worn a PoW tie with the same ground color then I might like it better. As others have mentioned, it looks like a formal tie.

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Caustic, just call your wife and shut your pie hole!

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I think gray jackets can look really good, as well as navy/blue trousers can look good. Few people combine them well though. I have to agree with CM, that the examples blekit gave are not very good. The first guy is ok, but not much more than that.

However, I think this thread had a few decent examples:

http://www.styleforum.net/t/349873/the-dreaded-odd-navy-pants-revisited/30

 

 

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Even when u sport something that ugly you still look prettty darn good.

 

 

 

 

It's wrong because it's so unconventional. You're free to dress that way of course.

 

 

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Also, on the navy trouser debate: I'm also firmly in the "rarely, if ever works"-camp. I think the main reason is that navy is a much stronger color than grey. It draws attention to itself, and attention should be on the top half of your ensemble.

 

 

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Combining them with a grey jacket is in fact the easiest way to wear navy pants.

 

 

At best, that is a debatable point.  

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Could be, but I don't like solid silver ties. If you had worn a PoW tie with the same ground color then I might like it better. As others have mentioned, it looks like a formal tie.

Fair enough. I think your suggestion would look great (now I feel the urge to locate one). That said, I don't share your dislike for solid (non satin) silver ties.
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Caustic, just call your wife and shut your pie hole!

 

noodles on fire lately

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Fair enough. I think your suggestion would look great (now I feel the urge to locate one). That said, I don't share your dislike for solid (non satin) silver ties.

 

Glen plaid, but you get the idea.

 

http://www.kentwang.com/ties/glen-plaid.html

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Im not sure there is a significant difference between the two. Influences can exist in ones personal life, but don't have to. It's less a matter of where they come from than how you utilize their influence. Either can be positive or negative.

@Theo Prof ugly tie, bro. It brings down what otherwise is a decent fit.

I think because the "mentor" thing is often in the context of iGents learning to dress from the internet (like me). I don't see the difference between IRL and online for such things, but generally I hear people talk about their father or uncle teaching them what is proper as if that influence makes them better dressed.

For a good and nuanced counterpoint, I believe @Academic2 has spoken on this topic.
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So your opinion is that environment doesn't matter?

I am not sure how that is relevant, unless you are (correctly) suggesting that people you know personally are more familiar with your environment and can then give you better advice for dressing appropriately within that environment. Though in that case, it is about choice (you should want to look like this) rather than execution (this is how you look like this).

But in general, environment and context matters a lot less now, and I think that's by and large for the better.

A tangent:

This morning, as I was parking my car, I saw a couple leaving Starbucks and walking toward their car. Guy, 50s, was wearing flip flops and an old, stretched polo and opened the door of his mid 2000s sedan for his wife as if it were the most natural thing in the world.

There are some elements of the "old way" that shouldn't be lost, and for whatever reason, fashion choices seem to be caught up with all that. Men wearing suits to work. That sort of thing.

Or like formalwear.

Don't get me wrong, if the musicians at the opera feel that it is disrespectful for people to be wearing at tshirt under a jacket at the opera, then it is disrespectful. But at the same time, I have a hard time imagining them feeling disrespected if I show up in a navy suit, even without a tie. I know nobody was bemoaning this, but I have seen tears of frustration shed over the death of formal wear.

And at some point, opera singers won't feel at all disrespected by a guy in the front row in a hoody and jeans. I think that'll be great. Democratize the opera.
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I think because the "mentor" thing is often in the context of iGents learning to dress from the internet (like me). I don't see the difference between IRL and online for such things, but generally I hear people talk about their father or uncle teaching them what is proper as if that influence makes them better dressed.

 

Actually I wasn't talking about mentoring with clothes specifically. I simply meant someone, either IRL or on the internet, who someone takes influence from. This doesn't necessarily mean that this person is a mentor in the sense that they are teaching you about clothing. However, you can have a mentor in your business career, for instance, who you think is a good dresser and whom you try to emulate. Two different things.

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