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maybe too dark and matchy today?

opinions welcomed.

 

 

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maybe too dark and matchy today?

opinions welcomed.

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I like it.

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New posters should look to @Koala-T for an example of how to take criticism and improve. IIRC, some people were a little blunt/kind of dicks to him and he took it all in stride, gleaned the advice, and applied it. The result was rapid improvement, and as people saw him applying the advice that was being given, their tone softened.

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opinions welcomed.

 

 

The shoes <3

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We do need more criticism in these threads. SF has turned slowly (or maybe not so slowly) towards the 'kop moar' culture, and it seems that people are scared of criticizing fits either because such things are frowned upon in AV threads, or because it may hurt the OPs feelings. Either way, the lack of frank and honest discussion stunts the growth of our sartorial learning. Sure, it sucks to be told certain aspects of our outfits may not match, weren't a good idea due to seasonal, formal, or other 'rules' based factors; but if we are not told, how will we learn?

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New posters should look to @Koala-T for an example of how to take criticism and improve. IIRC, some people were a little blunt/kind of dicks to him and he took it all in stride, gleaned the advice, and applied it. The result was rapid improvement, and as people saw him applying the advice that was being given, their tone softened.


I 100% agree.  If a new poster looks straight outta gq, he should be told what about his look is not going to work.  However,  I don't think anyone needs to publicly admonish him.  New comers post fit pics for feedback.  I don't think anyone is really expecting harsh words.  There is a right way and a wrong way to deliver criticism.  If the criticism causes resentment, it becomes a tough pill to swallow.  As I recall, most people were blunt with @Koala-T, without being mean.  I'm not sure if that is the best example though.  As I recall he received a barrage of criticism for what seemed like a month.  I'm sure he got the message long before.  Either way, is that what we should do?  Should we deride them until they either leave or change over to our way of thinking?  I haven't seen @mcobinad for some time.  He had some of the best stuff on here.  He was criticized on a daily basis for not fitting the styleforum mold.  People made their points and continued to make them.  I think if you have an opinion, state it once, kindly, and then realize that we all know what you think. 

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I 100% agree.  If a new poster looks straight outta gq, he should be told what about his look is not going to work.  However,  I don't think anyone needs to publicly admonish him.  New comers post fit pics for feedback.  I don't think anyone is really expecting harsh words.  There is a right way and a wrong way to deliver criticism.  If the criticism causes resentment, it becomes a tough pill to swallow.  As I recall, most people were blunt with @Koala-T, without being mean.  I'm not sure if that is the best example though.  As I recall he received a barrage of criticism for what seemed like a month.  I'm sure he got the message long before.  Either way, is that what we should do?  Should we deride them until they either leave or change over to our way of thinking?  I haven't seen @mcobinad for some time.  He had some of the best stuff on here.  He was criticized on a daily basis for not fitting the styleforum mold.  People made their points and continued to make them.  I think if you have an opinion, state it once, kindly, and then realize that we all know what you think. 

 

Well said.

 

I'm not saying that people should continue to be dicks when giving criticisms. Just taking my hat off to @Koala-T for being able to handle it, and, because of his great attitude, eventually got a lot more help and instruction. If I was in his shoes, I personally would have been turned off by how the thread first reacted to his posts.

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I welcome criticism but a little more humility might be in order. Surprised to see so many people in this thread talking in absolutes. "We must learn" or "his style improved after comments" etc. Once again based on some weird notion that there are absolute truths here. This is menswear, not math. And there are a lot of people here who are great dressers, but nobody who can claim some sort of superiority.

Advice and comments can be helpful, give you ideas, make you notice things you haven't noticed before, and perhaps change how you view certain things. But if you post comments here with the intent to teach people "the right way" then it's going to miss the target. Do we want everyone here to dress the same way? How many style icons have become icons by following accepted practice? I want advice, constructive criticism, inspiration, fresh outlooks, but I'm not here to be disciplined.
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Since @pravda mentioned Hermes, I think that I might have discovered the source of the silly little bits of coral that ISAIA puts in the lapel buttonholes of their jacket, one of Hermes (Rodeo Drive) window displays.........

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But when people come in and start skewing what was otherwise very solid advice...a defense of a basic principle of shirting had to be taken

Actually, it did not. Subsequent comments were opinions, like yours, and they would stand or fall on their own merits. It's one thing to have a friendly debate, but quite another to set out to MAKE OTHERS UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE WRONG. No one is really interested in the latter.
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Actually, it did not. Subsequent comments were opinions, like yours, and they would stand or fall on their own merits. It's one thing to have a friendly debate, but quite another to set out to MAKE OTHERS UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE WRONG. No one is really interested in the latter.


I was actually going to go on a rant about how when people say things like "had to be" it shows they have a poor understanding of language.   Nothing has to be without a condition.  You have to breath, but only if you want to live.  Maybe someone was threatening to kill his family, and he had to say it, to save his family.  He still had a choice. 

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I'm actually glad people ignore my post. wink.gif
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I'm actually glad people ignore my post. wink.gif


Tom Ford?  I'm guessing by the really big flaps on the pockets?

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Tom Ford?  I'm guessing by the really big flaps on the pockets?
Custom actually. But Tom Ford had a lot to do with my choices. It's handmade from a Kansas City shop. Beautifully made as well.
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Custom actually. But Tom Ford had a lot to do with my choices. It's handmade from a Kansas City shop. Beautifully made as well.


It looks like a nice suit.  Too Tom Ford for me, though.  I'm sure there's a lot people that like that kind of thing.  I actually like Tom Ford the person.  I am always down to watch his interviews.  I just don't care for his designs.

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