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Originally Posted by ericgereghty View Post
 

He can wear something that people can like and not be naked. Considering the latter is the basic function of clothing, it seems to me he has achieved the basic utility of clothing AND the notable perk of some folks liking it.

 

However, since nothing short of blind adherence to your views will suffice, let's just say you're right and be done with it.

 

Correct. He has clothed himself...though even this is not necessary in some societies...i.e., many towns in Vermont have no law prohibiting public nudity. In fact, upon the discovery of this omission of law...there were large groups of citizens who proudly displayed themselves in the town common places.

 

But, let's not dodge the real matter here. This is not the "one shirt" that works with all outfits and always will. This is an ideal much like Plato's forms...but we are not perfect...we can not reach such a lofty ideal. And so there are some shirts that are inherently better than others. But this shirt...falls at the very bottom rung...because it cannot achieve success in a business outfit...and it cannot achieve success in a casual outfit. It cannot achieve real harmony within an outfit anywhere...because it in and of itself lacks harmony.

 

There is a time and a place for a contrast collar just as there is for a plaid shirt. But there is never a time and a place for a plaid shirt with a contrast collar.

 

Simply put...there are myriad options that work better...hence this shirt is a less than optimal choice.  

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Who made that Jacket and cloth?
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Originally Posted by PCK1 View Post
 

 

Then he should begin the SQUARE REVOLUTION.

 

The only square here is you.

 

Also, did you suggest he should burn his children? I think that's illegal in most states of the Union.

Probably legal in Alabama.

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You guys are killing me lol. On similar note, you guys hated my Duchamp loud paisley tie but I have had tons of women complimenting me when I wear it. Quite attractive, fashionable women I might add. One as early as last night at a party. So if there are attractive women out there trying to hit on that plaid shirt, let them be the judge.
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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post
 

 

Very interesting, and everyone in the photos at the link seems to be having a good time and enjoying themselves. Maybe some time you can share with us the story of the shop. Polish is not among the languages I read ;)

I will be very glad to share this story :D What is the best place to do that on SF? 

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You guys are killing me lol. On similar note, you guys hated my Duchamp loud paisley tie but I have had tons of women complimenting me when I wear it. Quite attractive, fashionable women I might add. One as early as last night at a party. So if there are attractive women out there trying to hit on that plaid shirt, let them be the judge.

Nope, it's still objectively wrong...there's nothing you can do about it!

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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post
 

 

The only square here is you.

 

Also, did you suggest he should burn his children? I think that's illegal in most states of the Union.

Probably legal in Alabama.

Weirder things than that are legal in Alabama.

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Originally Posted by Pliny View Post
 

Tom Miler life must be a grind u poor bastard-  whisky & bespoke.

 

Yeah, the hardest things are always being at work, not gaining weight and staying sober ;)  ... Other than that I live my dreams ;) :D :D :D 

 

 

 

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One of my least favorite arguments: women compliment me on it.

People tend to compliment loud and garish items. In part this may be due to novelty. In part it may be salience. Similarly, it might be that they perceive you as calling attention to yourself, the loud item the focal point, and politely address it with a compliment.

There is probably more to it than that.

I very rarely have women or men compliment me on a specific item.* I very often get compliments on outfits as a whole or my style in general.

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If a person wants to judge an individual item for its aesthetics, it is probably best to first remove some context (women/men like it or the guys on SF really like it) and remove connotation (garish = bad). Then seek to describe the item. For example, I would describe a Duchamp tie as: loud, garish, playful, fun. I don't describe it in this way to speak to its merit. But then I ask: are these adjectives that I want in a tie? does a tie with such features look good in the context of an outfit? do people I consider very well dressed wear ties that can be described as such? do the people who qualified others consider to be very well dressed wear such ties?

This is how I would go about judging an item.

The argument against the plaid shirt with banker's collar is much more straightforward. A plaid shirt is casual. A banker's collar is very business. It is also a very obvious feature of any shirt, made more so by the contrast of a loud, colorful pattern against a stark white. It's simply too incongruent to work.

On a related note, I dislike dense plaid with neckties period. I've never seen a necktie look good against such busyness.

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* the one item I get a lot of compliments on is perhaps my least favorite jacket: a loud linen windowpane from H&S made up by BnT.
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post


The argument against the plaid shirt with banker's collar is much more straightforward. A plaid shirt is casual. A banker's collar is very business. It is also a very obvious feature of any shirt, made more so by the contrast of a loud, colorful pattern against a stark white. It's simply too incongruent to work.

On a related note, I dislike dense plaid with neckties period. I've never seen a necktie look good against such busyness.

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* the one item I get a lot of compliments on is perhaps my least favorite jacket: a loud linen windowpane from H&S made up by BnT.

 

I don't think anyone disagreed on this. The shirt with collar will not be suitable on SF, nor in business, nor in contexts where a suit is necessary.

In other contexts, e.g., cooking food in your backyard, going to the beach, going to a discoteque, the formal reasoning is either not apparent or irrelevant. Maybe the poster is even an entertainer, in which case all bets are off, but then SF is the wrong venue for refining this style.

 

For this reason, it would have been way simpler to explain that the shirt is a weird mashup and that weird mashups have no place in a suit worn for business. Going even more to basics, it would have been easier to say that tartan, period, is not something worn with suits, like hot sauce on a PB&J sandwich. The screed of invective against the shirt's existence in general was boring and dogmatic.

 

As for your linen windowpane jacket, I hate that one.

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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post


You got mad potential bro, your head is in the game. But you gotta check yaself before you wreck yaself.

Check this: sometimes we grab the more dope choice cuz it looks straight fire but it's TOO hot, looks too blinged out nawmean? You gotta go for that lowkey swag, build each piece up till you got a HALO around you, for real for real.

HTH

Word
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Originally Posted by Tom Miler View Post
 

I will be very glad to share this story :D What is the best place to do that on SF? 

 

If you can keep it neutral and refrain from advertising, try Ongoing Bespoke Projects thread

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Gents, I want to apologize for the bad quality of pics lately. Miss SYCSYC is on holiday at the moment and sleeps later than the hour I leave our home, hence the selfies.

 

Anyway, here is a blue brown grey fit paired with this lovely green and yellow tie from Berg & Berg

 

 

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Nice classic tie

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Enough of the plaid shirt caper. @SYCSYC you look great as usual.
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