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Originally Posted by EliodA View Post


English repp ties don't exist. They are regimental ties and AFAIK fairly formal, to be worn with blazers and such.
The only silk ties that IMO go well with tweed are bold paisley madders and those of the shooting variety depicting grouse or foxes. PS can be wool or wool/silk but never a linen in TV-fold.
Heavy weigh tweed calls for shirting with some texture. A nice flannel tattersall would have been perfect here.
Edit: and pink and navy is definitely not a country combination. In other words, this would have been a great fit if the tweed jacket was replaced by a navy blazer. smile.gif


Terminalogical exactitude is not something that I care a great deal about, not in this context, at least. I meant a striped tie in which the stripes descend "from the heart", and I think that was not difficult to discern. I dislike the American striped tie in which the stripes descend from the top right to bottom left. So, I was attempting to state that my personal preference would be if the tie had been of the English variety.

 

A Harris tweed jacket is a wonderful thing. And it looks perfectly fine with the OCBD and silk tie in the picture. And at this point, we're in ​de gustibus non est disputandum territory. 

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Originally Posted by Amar ezzahi View Post

 

Much too iGent. Ditch that how-could-you-not-see-how-ugly-that-is bag, get the trousers hemmed a little higher, and switch the pocket square to a none-red one.


Edited by JapanAlex01 - 2/14/15 at 3:11pm
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Thank you for the feedback Japan, I'll keep that in mind next time I dress that way.
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

You like everything else including the city shirt?

The city button-down shirt? It might not be the most rustic fabric, but that's not a city shirt. I like silk with tweed for the contrast in textures/finish.

I am surprised that rtc and Elio are so fervently toeing the line of traditional correctness. Especially rtc... smile.gif
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Actually Elio wrote precisely what I was thinking: swap the jacket for a navy blazer and it's a lovely fit.

 

Toeing the line of traditional correctness is the very essence of this board. It's what we do here.

 

"Repp" is a widely misused term, including on this board. See this thread and this article for further clarification.

 

"A rep tie is made from silk that's woven in such a way as to produce tight diagonal ribs that make for deep, brilliant colors." ...and... "The repp in repp tie refers to the particular weave of the silk which affects the texture but not the pattern. Diagonally striped ties can be repp weave or not and repp ties can be striped or not."

 

So, what do you call a striped tie falling right-to-left with a non-repp weave (i.e. the type of tie worn by @clarinetplayer above)? I have no idea.

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Rain today - it is starting to feel like Autumn is on its way!








Coat: Rubinacci
Jacket: Chester Barrie
Shirt: Liverano
Tie: Sam Hober
Pocket Square: Rubinacci
Trousers: Ralph Lauren
Shoes: Vass
Socks: Penrose of London
Hat: Borsalino
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^Great Shoes

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Quot Angeli in capite clavus saltare ?
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Exibit jacket

Luca Panerai scarf

Brancaccio shirt

Burberry watch

Scotch & Soda pants

Tod's driving loafers

Dog

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Originally Posted by Andy57 View Post
 


Terminalogical exactitude is not something that I care a great deal about, not in this context, at least. I meant a striped tie in which the stripes descend "from the heart", and I think that was not difficult to discern. I dislike the American striped tie in which the stripes descend from the top right to bottom left. So, I was attempting to state that my personal preference would be if the tie had been of the English variety.

 

A Harris tweed jacket is a wonderful thing. And it looks perfectly fine with the OCBD and silk tie in the picture. And at this point, we're in ​de gustibus non est disputandum territory. 

 

You may have noted that disputing each others tastes and aesthetic preferences forms quite a lot of the activity - and the fun - of this forum ;)

Anyway, you wrote that CP's fit was a classic, when truly it is not. Which is what I tried to explain.

BTW, why do you dislike the stripes of the American variety?

 

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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post


The city button-down shirt? It might not be the most rustic fabric, but that's not a city shirt. I like silk with tweed for the contrast in textures/finish.

I am surprised that rtc and Elio are so fervently toeing the line of traditional correctness. Especially rtc... smile.gif

 

Well, I don't shy away of breaking the rules of traditional correctness on occasion,  but only when I feel that the end result is still coherent and aesthetically pleasing.

I like to think that those rules are there for a reason and - a few purely conventional exceptions aside - that they are ultimately guidelines that help us make combinations that are aesthetically sound.

So what I didn't like about clarinetplayer's fit is not the rule breaking per se, but the aesthetics: the cool navy and pink colours don't work with the warm tweed. The shirt fabric seems not substantial enough next to the heavy tweed.

I'm neither historian nor psychologist so I can only speculate, but I can imagine that the formal vs. casual rules have developed in the way they have because they align with our emotional associations and aesthetic preferences: i.e. cool colours, smooth fabrics etc. are not formal because the rules tell us so, but these preferences have become rules because to most people they make a more formal (i.e. emotionally 'distant') impression than warm colours and fuzzy fabrics.

I agree with you that the wetness of silk provides a nice contrast with the dry look of tweed. (Didn't we discuss this very subject a few pages ago in this thread?) In fact, the very first book on menswear I ever read (Roetzel) featured a pic of such a combination that somehow stuck forever in my mind:

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Coxsackie View Post
 

Actually Elio wrote precisely what I was thinking: swap the jacket for a navy blazer and it's a lovely fit.

 

Toeing the line of traditional correctness is the very essence of this board. It's what we do here.

 

"Repp" is a widely misused term, including on this board. See this thread and this article for further clarification.

 

"A rep tie is made from silk that's woven in such a way as to produce tight diagonal ribs that make for deep, brilliant colors." ...and... "The repp in repp tie refers to the particular weave of the silk which affects the texture but not the pattern. Diagonally striped ties can be repp weave or not and repp ties can be striped or not."

 

So, what do you call a striped tie falling right-to-left with a non-repp weave (i.e. the type of tie worn by @clarinetplayer above)? I have no idea.

 

Cox, I think I know what you're getting at, but I don't think "toeing the line of traditional correctness is the very essence of this board". For me, the essence is getting the opportunity to learn about these traditions and understanding why they have become so, so that I can make better informed decisions on where to follow them and where to ignore them. Which, I hope, will lead to me wearing better combinations because they are based on a better understanding of the underlying 'rules' instead of just randomly thrown together. At least, that's what I hope I've learned since joining SF. YMMV of course.

 

Indeed, 'repp' is widely misused and only pertains to the type of weave. But I thought the word itself is purely American, isn't it? In other words, a striped tie with that type of weave would be called a regimental tie in England. As would a striped tie without a 'repp' weave. As for the correct American term for a non-repp weave striped tie, I have no idea either...

 

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Originally Posted by clarinetplayer View Post

Quot Angeli in capite clavus saltare ?

 

:) Yes,  this seems mostly just a debating exercise, but I figured since we're here with like minded people, we enjoy debates like this? If not, my apologies...


Edited by EliodA - 2/14/15 at 5:31pm
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Cox, I think you'll find that clarinetplayer's tie does have a repp weave. My endorsement of it takes it as given. Should it turn out to be a satin, I would be less enthusiastic about it.

Elio, I see the tweed there as gray, not particularly warm, so the blue and pink don't clash for me. If you don't see it that way, I certainly understand your objection.

I had to get Google to translate CP's Latin, but I chuckled.
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i just didn't like the tie and PS with that jacket. I honestly didn't care much about the shirt till someone brought it up, but that kind of schlubby tweed and the slickness and smoothness of everything else just didn't jive for me. I don't think it's much to be worried about as CP dresses pretty damn well. 

 

Just because I choose not to dress like many people on this thread on a daily basis, doesn't mean I don't appreciate how they dress. It was a rare miss for him and I'm not sure why we're still talking about it! The way this thread drifts towards semantics at times just bores and confuses me. Not my cuppa tea!

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Happy Valentine's Day.  Love 'em if you got 'em.  I taught in the Bronx and had dinner at the Polo Bar (Mr. Lauren's new restaurant).  Lovely decor and delicious food.  3rd go at the FC.  Snow necessitated the boots.  Yes, those are hearts on my square.  

 

 

 

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Braddocks suit is one of the best things to ever happen to menswear.
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There seems to be some discussion about tweed jackets, striped silk ties, silk pocket squares, and oxford cloth button down shirts and if these things are formal or informal or city or country or whatever.  

The grey vest that I wore with all of these other items on Tuesday is formal, as I usually wear it with a black jacket and grey and black striped trousers (and yes, have grey spats, too).

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