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post #61 of 78
when it's questionable about the "retail" price, i always email and ask if the price tag is attached. more often than not, it's NOT attached.
post #62 of 78
One thing I do not get, Zegna is not an, oh look at the brand - this is Zegna, type of label. So why would people want to (as people here have suggested) buy a Zegna suit just to show the brand. I am sure that anyone who buys Zegna suit is more interested in the quality than the brand. If someone wanted to just show the brand, it would be Gucci, Prada, Fendi, Vuitton et cetera. Just a thought....
post #63 of 78
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For example, a drop 4 which would be a huskier cut is not just a pant of a size 36 which otherwise would be matched to a 40 jacket but in reality a pant that is proportionately cut to someone that would take a 40 jacket and a 36 pant
The less the drop, the more the wearer has collected around the middle. The jacket, as well as the trousers, has to fit around the girth. The lesser the drop in a coat the more material is in the forepart of the jacket (the back remains virtually the same) to provide space for an ample belly and still enable the jacket to be closed. Most big guys you see in the streets these days, cannot close the coat and cannot get the waistband  of the trousers over their tummy.
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which would be wider waste and with a shorter crotch.  This would mean that in fact there is a pant that by itself is a drop 4 cut and similarly a drop 4 jacket (wider jacket and shorter length)
Actually, the bigger the waist, the longer the rise. The tummy should always be covered and not for all the world on display.
post #64 of 78
When I was a newbie to selling on ebay I was probably guilty of inflating things a bit but this is just comical unless I am ignorant. You can buy a NWT Nipon suit at K&G Menswear in Dallas for around $100 (or could when I left grad school). Here is an ad suggesting it is a $3000 suit. I will reserve judgment, maybe there is a couture line of Nipon that has escaped my notice (but I am willing to bet not) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....me=WDVW
post #65 of 78
No, you aren't mistaken. That is a particularly nasty piece of junk
post #66 of 78
Wow, that seller has a lot of horrible crap advertised at ridiculously high prices. He also seems like a belligerent ass if you look at his feedback. No wonder he makes all his auctions private; probably doesn't want people to be able to warn bidders of his dishonesty.
post #67 of 78
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I love it. Armani, Boss . . . Nipon. LOFL... Kiton, Brioni, Oxxford . . . Jones New York.
post #68 of 78
K&G Men's mart...now there is a name from my recent past.  I did get quite a bit of wear out of the $100 suits that I got there. Got a few complements, too. I love this quote in the auction: "[S]ingle row of buttons on the jacket creating a classic single breasted front." Bic
post #69 of 78
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No, you aren't mistaken. That is a particularly nasty piece of junk
Good lord...what a fused piece of crapulence THAT is. koji
post #70 of 78
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(A Harris @ 26 July 2004, 9:06) No, you aren't mistaken. That is a particularly nasty piece of junk
Good lord...what a fused piece of crapulence THAT is. koji
I'm struck by the absence of negative feedback about quality or fraud from the unfortunate purchasers of this overpriced junk. They seem used to it and perhaps don't want to know any better. This is why you can count the sellers of quality merchandise on EBay on one hand and you can see NWT Luciano Barbera suits linger unsold.
post #71 of 78
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I love this quote  in the auction: "[S]ingle row of buttons on the jacket creating a classic single breasted front." Bic
That is a great quote... I suppose that if you ran the buttons across the chest horizontally you wouldnt have a single row creating a single breasted, so its good he pointed out that the single row creates the single breasted look. I am particulalry offended by the navy blue tie matched with the Taupe color suit. Also someone please explain this to me as its not the first time I have seen this on these few ebay auctions listed in this thread... "...no holes or smells and is LIKE new flawless unworn condition" Yes the auction is labeled as "new without Tags"... How can they get away with this? JJF
post #72 of 78
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(Bic Pentameter @ 27 July 2004, 06:12) I love this quote in the auction: "[S]ingle row of buttons on the jacket creating a classic single breasted front." Bic
That is a great quote... I suppose that if you ran the buttons across the chest horizontally you wouldnt have a single row creating a single breasted, so its good he pointed out that the single row creates the single breasted look. I am particulalry offended by the navy blue tie matched with the Taupe color suit. Also someone please explain this to me as its not the first time I have seen this on these few ebay auctions listed in this thread... "...no holes or smells and is LIKE new flawless unworn condition" Yes the auction is labeled as "new without Tags"... How can they get away with this? JJF
How? Easy, people (consumers, sellers, ebay) either: a) don't care b) don't know enough to distinguish the difference c) too careless too notice d) too stupid to notice e) human error (it's possible...) Jon.
post #73 of 78
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(FIHTies @ 27 July 2004, 10:30)
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Originally Posted by Bic Pentameter,27 July 2004, 06:12
I love this quote  in the auction: "[S]ingle row of buttons on the jacket creating a classic single breasted front." Bic
That is a great quote... I suppose that if you ran the buttons across the chest horizontally you wouldnt have a single row creating a single breasted, so its good he pointed out that the single row creates the single breasted look. I am particulalry offended by the navy blue tie matched with the Taupe color suit. Also someone please explain this to me as its not the first time I have seen this on these few ebay auctions listed in this thread... "...no holes or smells and is LIKE new flawless unworn condition" Yes the auction is labeled as "new without Tags"... How can they get away with this?   JJF
How? Easy, people (consumers, sellers, ebay) either: a) don't care b) don't know enough to distinguish the difference c) too careless too notice d) too stupid to notice e) human error (it's possible...) Jon.
"Poo Poo Heads"...The whole lot of them... Actually It reminds me of the "far side" cartoon where the ranchers are hiding behind the covered wagon which has an arrow with fire in it and the rancher says to the other "They are lighting their arrows...CAN they do that?? I didnt mean how can they do it, I meant why is it tolerated by any of the involved parties. And your answer of course is correct, and again I will illustrate with a far side... The Obviousely dumb guy at the door and the shady salesman selling him a book called "Double Your IQ or No Money Back", while the dumb guy says...Gee Sounds OK... Sad... JJF
post #74 of 78
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No, you aren't mistaken. That is a particularly nasty piece of junk
Well, what do you expect from a seller who names him-/herself "blacksheep..."? I can't think of a more blatant warning to bidders. MtB
post #75 of 78
The sad truth is that sellers attract buyers that are on the same level as they are. When I first started selling, I knew nothing about clothes and was quite impressed by some of the junk I would find at thrift stores. Being a decent writer, I would write glowing descriptions about it, and sell it for BUCKS. I was getting far more for junk than I do for the real deal these days. I was clueless and believed in the merchandise, and my customers were clueless and believed in it too. They were quite happy with what they bought. It's embarassing to read those auctions now. As I learned, I moved upmarket. It got harder and harder to make a profit. I thought that the market had changed, and it has, but more importantly, my customer base had changed. I now sell primarily to men who know clothing. like you guys. And that is a TOUGH market. Not to mention a much much smaller market. I'll never go back, because I would have to be dishonest to rave about the kind of merchandise I used to sell. But it can be very frustrating to see all the shysters out there making a killing while I struggle to sell truly world class clothing at 25% or less of the original retail price. So the short version is that these sellers sell to those who do not know any better - if somebody can't tell it is junk from the pictures, then they probably will be satisfied with it in person. And they WANT to believe that they are getting a $3000 suit for cheap, therefore they believe it. It's a very bad cycle, and it will probably never change...
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