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post #91 of 305
I have no skin in the game so wtf do I know, but it's small-town thinking like this that keeps DC from getting better shops. Someone could do it if they did it right.
post #92 of 305
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IIt seems to me that someone with a decent amount of capital and some vision could still do well here. It would certainly help if they had a crackerjack e-commerce site to back the local store up.
I think this is key. DC has a better contemporary arts scene than you would expect given its reputation as a conservative town. The receptions for art openings I have attended have been mobbed, although generally by 20-somethings who come to look but don't buy the art. So how to these art galleries survive? Diverse customer base. A gallerist from whom I have purchased a few pieces told me that half of his customers are from outside DC, and half of that group is international.
post #93 of 305
It's hard, Pete. I admitt I am not the smartest business person but I thought the product was there and with the department stores having sales all the time and getting mark down money from the vendors it's rough. Rent is high in the area. There are lots of variables. I would like to think someone could make it to and if they do I hope they buy WvG.


Has anyone been to the new BBQ place downtown ( not hillcountry).
post #94 of 305
AC- that makes sense because of the influx of tourist and foreign students and policital employees.
post #95 of 305
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Disposable income in this city is high. However, how people spend their money is another story.
I have said this a million times and hold firm to this belief. The majority of DC doesn't give a fuck about fashion. They do like status. So cars, big dinner and bar tabs are very common but no one really wants to stand out more than the next guy. No one whats to show up their boss or explain why they spent 400.00 on a pair of pants that weren't Brioni or Ralph. It's not smart career wise to seem you are better than your co-workers, this goes for men and women. Now there are a handful of people that are exceptions ( non-law or politics related) to this rule but there aren't enough to sustain a specialty store like "farinellis".
Lost boys and redeem have better systems were they juggle fashion forward with acceptable.
I don't even want to get on "sale" shoppers.

Sounds like DC just needs a few good tastemakers to change things up a bit. Just wait until I open my targeting/communications consulting firm -- I'll have all the Democratic party hacks in Junya before you know it.
post #96 of 305
would love to hear your guys' food recommendations. i like zaytinya and central among others okay but i haven't had a meal here that really blew me away yet.
post #97 of 305
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It's hard, Pete. I admitt I am not the smartest business person but I thought the product was there and with the department stores having sales all the time and getting mark down money from the vendors it's rough. Rent is high in the area. There are lots of variables. I would like to think someone could make it to and if they do I hope they buy WvG. Has anyone been to the new BBQ place downtown ( not hillcountry).
I believe what you're trying to say is, "The Rent is Too Damn High". This is an unfortunate reality in DC. While the District undoubtedly punches above its weight class in a number of areas, real estate costs are also borderline ridiculous considering the size of the city. This is a stiff barrier to entry for small, independent businesses, and it makes it harder for them to stay afloat. Those that do exist are almost required to sell what's "safe" because it's that much harder to recoup initial investment costs, much less get to the point of profitability. It stifles innovation and experimentation, because stores don't have time to build up a customer base with new or relatively unknown brands, and it can be too risky to introduce items and styles that won't necessarily sell right away.
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Sounds like DC just needs a few good tastemakers to change things up a bit. Just wait until I open my targeting/communications consulting firm -- I'll have all the Democratic party hacks in Junya before you know it.
This is also (potentially) true...just because DC doesn't have a strong interest in style now doesn't mean that it's at its end state. It seems like dressing well is becoming more of a "thing" in general now that we're moving past the cultural influences of the slovenly Baby Boomers and seeing more influences from Gen-X and the Millenials. DC has trends, too - whether more indigenous, like the rise of Fugazi, et al., or more in tune with the rest of the country, like the recent boom in craft beer - and there's no reason that clothing couldn't be a trend in the future. edit: Jeebus, I just read what I wrote. [/xenox], for reals.
post #98 of 305
^^ I like what you wrote.


As far as food goes DC proper here are a few-

Al Tirimisu - P st ( amazing , little pricey but well worth it)

Granville Moores - H st ( mussels and buffalo)

chinatown express- behind the verizon center where they make the noodles in the wondow. Good soup and dumplings ( 5.95 can't beat it) Ful kee is caddywhack from it and Ful kee is also really good if you get the non-american menu

All the Jose Andres restaurants are good, not great but good.

In Va-

Ray's hellburger 2- clarendon

Pho 75- clarendon

Restaurant Eve- Old town ( i love it there but again pricey)

majestic Grill- Old town


MD-

Ray's the classic ( best porterhouse and price in the city for sure!) - Silver springs

actually there are a few good restaurants in Silver spring.

National habor has the WORST restaurants and over priced food ever.


That's a good list to start with.
post #99 of 305
I am amazed how many incredibly well paid lawyers and politicians in DC dress so poorly. It's nothing but oversized suits and ugly black $70 shoes. I do agree that DC seems to be getting trendier, though. In the five years I've lived here, there has been a tremendous influx of new bars and restaurants that are catering to more upscale beers and atmosphere.
post #100 of 305
silver sprung is amazing for eating, least for me
post #101 of 305
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would love to hear your guys' food recommendations. i like zaytinya and central among others okay but i haven't had a meal here that really blew me away yet.

I like Zaytinya a lot. I mean, it's been hard for me to find Michelin-star type shit in DC, it seems. Not sure why that is, but at least there's a lot of really good mid-range stuff. Jose Andres does all his stuff better in LA at Bazaar, I think.

I also love Restaurant Eve. Probably the best meal I've had in the DC area. Glazed pork belly, sweetbreads, etc. New American done right. Amazing cheese course.

Found Citronelle to be really disappointing, especially for the price, but the GF took me there for my birthday so I of course acted super enthused. Now she's confused because she knows I'm a huge foodie with a relatively sophisticated palette and she's not, but she still found it underwhelming.

Other than that, I don't really know much. Jaleo is good for traditional tapas, but not astonishing (again, I think all the dishes at Jaleo that show up at Bazaar are done much better there, especially more subtly).

Cuba Libre is very enjoyable and not very expensive, but best not on a weekend night (the food quality suffers a lot when they're packed, it seems).

Still haven't been to Central, Cork, or a few other places I've been recommended.
post #102 of 305
The W Hotel has the best Parmesan Chicken hands-down. my buddy who was staying there for a month-long work stint called me over to come try it. I drove from Alexandria just for that, and what an experience that was. It's a work of art, taste-wise.
post #103 of 305
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National habor has the WORST restaurants and over priced food ever.

Ha ha, quoted for truth.

I'm not a foodie or into the fine dining experience, but I can second Chinatown Express for the fresh noodle soup and dumplings, Ray's Hellburger, and Pho 75 (although Philly seriously kicks DC's ass in terms of Vietnamese food, particularly if you consider how much of a pain it is to get to the Eden Center).

Etete (9th just south of U) is probably my favorite Ethiopian place, although the atmosphere is better at Dukem (12th? and U).

Churchkey is unquestionably the ultimate beer Mecca of DC. It's almost intolerably crowded with yuppies during happy hour and on most weekend nights, though.

Also, I forget the name of it, but there's a mom-and-pop Korean take-out place in Mt. Pleasant.

I can't think of the name of the Indian place downtown that has the deep-fried spinach dish - someone else can probably step in here - but it's really good, even if they never make the food spicy enough.
post #104 of 305
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Ha ha, quoted for truth.

I'm not a foodie or into the fine dining experience, but I can second Chinatown Express for the fresh noodle soup and dumplings, Ray's Hellburger, and Pho 75 (although Philly seriously kicks DC's ass in terms of Vietnamese food, particularly if you consider how much of a pain it is to get to the Eden Center).

Etete (9th just south of U) is probably my favorite Ethiopian place, although the atmosphere is better at Dukem (12th? and U).

Churchkey is unquestionably the ultimate beer Mecca of DC. It's almost intolerably crowded with yuppies during happy hour and on most weekend nights, though.

Also, I forget the name of it, but there's a mom-and-pop Korean take-out place in Mt. Pleasant.

I can't think of the name of the Indian place downtown that has the deep-fried spinach dish - someone else can probably step in here - but it's really good, even if they never make the food spicy enough.

oh yeah, Churchkey is a great place to get wasted

For being nothing but craft-beer and high alcohol content, it's surprisingly not horribly overpriced

I love their selection of IPAs. Lagunitas and Belgica wash all my troubles away.
post #105 of 305
Any list of top restaurants in the DC area would include Komi, Minibar, Citronelle, Restaurant Eve, 2941, CityZen, and Palena. These places are best enjoyed when someone else is paying.
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