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post #31 of 74

Excellent lit. review, MC.

 

I had some... questionable experiences with Studio Kim's alterations. Nothing totally disastrous, just overpriced and a long time in waiting for not terribly brilliant results.

 

Mehmet at Magic Tailor does solid work, but, again, I only know him from alterations, and he has *very* definite and classical ideas about what's what.

 

Salgado makes lovely shirts.

 

The best value you'll find, outside of the inherent and unimpeachable value of true bespoke tailoring (which is a bargain at any price, provided you can afford it), is in Samuelsohn MTM through a shop with a good alterations tailor who can tweak the fit on arrival.

post #32 of 74
Thread Starter 

Whew, that's a fulsome review. Much obliged MC. Took me a while to go through everything. One question - why the breakdown with MTM and formal? Wouldn't all the MTM places be able to do formal suiting? Are you saying the "Formal" places would specialize in tux's or tail's?

 

In the meantime I had been to Spiros. I would have to agree with your assessment. I walked in pretty excited, asked a few questions and quickly got the impression that he really didn't want me to be there. Reeaaally awkward, and I got the sense that it would be really old school. So I walked out, and I think Spiros was happy for that. 

 

I have had a bunch of stuff done by Trend, and while Don is really nice, quality control is really poor. He has managed to do something substantive wrong every time, which isn't easily fixable afterwards (like making a structured jacket instead of unstructured, wrong pockets on the pants etc.), so while I have no hard feelings, it would be great if I didn't have to deal with it.

 

Plan of attack is going to be Walter B, though I fear too old school, and then Nazzareno (since I know nothing about them).

 

Unrelated-related, I've got a bunch of old shirts that are still good, but which I don't wear any more (my MTM shirts fit much better). Thomas Pink's and Boss mainly. I've never tried to sell or list things on SF - is it worthwhile doing so? General demand for this sort of product (good condition, size 15 (US))?

post #33 of 74
Thread Starter 

Also, just thought of something else. Does anyone know what happened to Green Shag? I had gotten a couple of things at their shop, and walked by last week, but see that another store is in their old space.

post #34 of 74
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Originally Posted by TOstyle View Post

Whew, that's a fulsome review. Much obliged MC. Took me a while to go through everything. One question - why the breakdown with MTM and formal? Wouldn't all the MTM places be able to do formal suiting? Are you saying the "Formal" places would specialize in tux's or tail's?
nah nothing that complicated. by 'tailoring' I meant alterations. by casual I meant SW&D like jeans, khakies, and by 'formal' I meant MC so business clothing.

first section is MTM and bespoke tailors. second section is for tailoring stuff once it's been made or OTR



also just a caveat, I haven't used any of these places myself and have at best maybe had a few casual conversations with some of these guys, but the list and comments are based on having read a LOT of internet chatter, so it's the overall consistent patterns. If there were a few posts saying it was great I'm more likely to say it's worth going and talking to them, and shouldn't be taken as an endorsement, whereas if I saw even a few negative reviews I was much more likely to give the tailor a lower credit. Of course online 'review' and comments tend to have a self-selection bias, usually negative, but it's money so I'd rather be safe than sorry.
post #35 of 74

On the formal front, here's a recent Toronto survey on BlackTieGuide.com's blog. Confirms much of what's been said here, adds a little more, and curiously overpraises Spiros...

post #36 of 74
I will say that I've seen mixed reviews about Spiros. I guess it depends on what style you prefer both in terms of suit and relationship. Works for some, not for others. So my assessment shouldn't be taken as a negative review of them, just a larger than normal warning to do more diligence before committing with them.



also forgot off the list, Harry Rosen's themselves. I had assumed they only did MTM through their various vendors but looks like they have their own bespoke operation.
post #37 of 74
anyone know of any good places to get a ripped pair of pants fixed? its not on the seam so i was hoping maybe someone knew of an invisible mending or re-weaving place that could get the pants back up to snuff.

thanks!
post #38 of 74

I've been to Harry Rosen and Garrison. 

 

If you want something simply the Samuelsson MTM program is actually quite good. The fabrics are excellent and the pricing is very reasonable. Garrison offers a nice step up. I have two Bespoke suits from there and they turned out great. I'm not too flashy, but they have a huge selection of fabrics that can even make more basics stand out. Would recommend, but it's pricey.

post #39 of 74
anyone know where to get pants reweaved in toronto?

thanks
post #40 of 74
Thread Starter 

Hey akoustas - I was just going to head into Garrison this weekend to check it out any maybe get something. Do you know the general price range for VBC and Dormeuil by change?

 

And linds_15 - I don't know of anywhere in Toronto that does reweaving, but the French American Re-Weaving Co. in NYC (on 57th St.) works absolute miracles. Honestly it's amazing what they manage to fix. That might not be too helpful to you, though I can speak highly of them, and if it is something you value that you really want fixed (and obviously aren't wearing now since it's ripped) it could be worth combined with a vacation and dropping of there, as I think they will gladly mail you the re-worked product.

post #41 of 74
@Tostyle things are a bit different now they mainly run bespoke with limited mtm events. I got a Dormeuil and a vbc mtm suit when they were doing mtm full time and they were about 1400. Since then I have two bespoke suits in Holland and sherry fabric and they set me back 2000 a piece. I'm not not an expert on wool heirarechy but I'm guessing you'd be coming in a bit under that for the fabrics you're considering. Tell Mike Paul Alex k sent you.
post #42 of 74
Ps go in knowing what you'd like generally. The guys at the front are stylists and things could go off kilter if you don't clearly state your preference in terms of cut and general style. The tailors themselves are excellent I couldn't be happier with my custom pieces
post #43 of 74
Thread Starter 

Duly noted - good intel. I'm a big fan of mtm, as I'm always happy to say I think if it's well done its great value, so I'll see how things go...and if I get the hard sell to a bespoke model. Also very curious if this is "true" bespoke with proper basted fittings; especially since I do believe this is a made-in-China product (which makes doing it true bespoke a lot more difficult).

 

Thanks mate! 

post #44 of 74
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Originally Posted by TOstyle View Post

Hey akoustas - I was just going to head into Garrison this weekend to check it out any maybe get something. Do you know the general price range for VBC and Dormeuil by change?

And linds_15 - I don't know of anywhere in Toronto that does reweaving, but the French American Re-Weaving Co. in NYC (on 57th St.) works absolute miracles. Honestly it's amazing what they manage to fix. That might not be too helpful to you, though I can speak highly of them, and if it is something you value that you really want fixed (and obviously aren't wearing now since it's ripped) it could be worth combined with a vacation and dropping of there, as I think they will gladly mail you the re-worked product.

thanks for this. im not heading there anytime soon but will in the eventually so ill keep my suit aside until then and check them out. thanks
post #45 of 74
No problem! From what I understand the mtm stuff was done in Montreal and the bespoke is done at a workshop next door in Toronto. I've pressed them on the issue a number of times. The high quality mtm is a semi regular thing (and it's not on right now) so I wouldn't recommend whatever options are on offer (most likely to cater to wedding parties). There's no basted fitting but from what I've read that's not that all uncommon. Given the fit of my most recent piece I'd find it hard to believe it was shipped out, then again I could be naive.

Maybe give them a try and grab some shirts before committing to a suit?
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