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post #316 of 1505
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Originally Posted by KingJulien View Post

@fuuma that's 100% what I was thinking.  I'd prefer the belt, fat zipper pulls, and an all-rayon black liner, and chrome hardware (not gunmetal) is a must.

Also: are the cuff zippers going on the back or the front/side? 

Liking the chrome hard wear idea icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
post #317 of 1505
This is getting interesting.
post #318 of 1505
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

Well, you're in luck then. The arms on the fit jacket are none too long - right on my friend, and way too short on me, though on me, the fact that it was way too small everywhere, and therefore pulled up on me, played a part.

I'm not worried about your jacket, I'm worried about how it scales down :P You know how many of those trad brand look pretty good on a size 40-42 but stupid on a 34-36.
post #319 of 1505
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post


I'm not worried about your jacket, I'm worried about how it scales down :P You know how many of those trad brand look pretty good on a size 40-42 but stupid on a 34-36.

I feel you.  However, the ultraslim fit was developed for the Japanese market, and if you look on the net, there are SS sizes shown.  I am a 38-40, and would take the L in the ultraslim fit, which means that you wouldn't even be at that small a size.  You would be 2 sizes down, so a S in the ultraslim.  

 

Re. hardware.  I think that we'll do the standard chrome hardware.  The idea is to have a Vanson that is slimmed down to fit fashion people, not to make something that is unrecognizable as a Vanson.  The reason that designers go to traditional companies like Vanson is that there is something honest about those designs.  Taking something highly functional as the starting point is a really attractive proposition for many designers.

post #320 of 1505
I might hop on this train... really wish bison were an option.
post #321 of 1505
vanson is about a 2-3 hour drive for me, I wonder if it'd be worth the effort to check them out
post #322 of 1505

The Junya look really tight fit in motion. I think it should also be noted that the fit photos are with the zip partially zipped as far as I can tell. 

 

Junya show:

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Edited by Vordhosbn1 - 5/7/14 at 1:15am
post #323 of 1505
I'd hope it's full rider jacket with coin pocket and belt or without either like Seenmys. Chrome hardware sounds nice.
post #324 of 1505
Here are my thoughts (which aren't far off from Fuuma's).


1) no belt, no belt loops, and no coin pocket on lower abdomen - No belt, would like to do single or double side adjusters. No coin pocket on lower abdomen.

2) angled left forearm coin pocket, angled on forearm like it is on the VAJ-3 bicep - I'd prefer a coin pocket at the bicep if we're even considering pockets along the sleeves. Not really into a forearm pocket.

3) 5-5.5 inch chest pocket with 7 inch handwarmer pockets; chest pocket angled like on Aero 1930s Half Belt - Ok

4) no dropped back, back cut straight across - I'm not sure I understand yet what a "dropped back" is. Is that like a "scalloped" hem?

5) leather toggles (like on VAJ-3) on all exterior pocket ring pulls - I'm with Fuuma: big fat zipper pulls please. No leather.

6) no interior pockets - One interior pocket inside the left breast.

7) black rayon liner - Ok

8) Z150 leather - Ok

9) nickel hardware - Silver or gunmetal would be best in my opinion.

10) please construct jacket with throat latch - nooooooooooo

11) please construct jacket snap-on / snap-off black mouton fur collar - nah

12) double-ended main zipper - yah

13) standard Vanson label - SFxVanson seems to be the most reasonable, but I also like the idea of something stupid and kitschy like "Style Van der Forum," "Not a Watanabe," or "Lil Fokker" being written on the label.

14) Ultra slimfit Japanese Fit with model C "action" back - I'm not sure what the "action" back is, but in terms of fit I think that this would work pretty well. @LA Guy do you think you'd have the opportunity to try on this model to see how it fits? I'm a muscly guy, but I still want something with a slim silhouette like this (Click to show)
main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=9457&g2_serialNumber=2
and not like this (Click to show)


15) size Large for prototype - sure
post #325 of 1505
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Originally Posted by thewho13 View Post

Here are my thoughts (which aren't far off from Fuuma's). Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

1) no belt, no belt loops, and no coin pocket on lower abdomen - No belt, would like to do single or double side adjusters. No coin pocket on lower abdomen.

2) angled left forearm coin pocket, angled on forearm like it is on the VAJ-3 bicep - I'd prefer a coin pocket at the bicep if we're even considering pockets along the sleeves. Not really into a forearm pocket.

3) 5-5.5 inch chest pocket with 7 inch handwarmer pockets; chest pocket angled like on Aero 1930s Half Belt - Ok

4) no dropped back, back cut straight across - I'm not sure I understand yet what a "dropped back" is. Is that like a "scalloped" hem?

5) leather toggles (like on VAJ-3) on all exterior pocket ring pulls - I'm with Fuuma: big fat zipper pulls please. No leather.

6) no interior pockets - One interior pocket inside the left breast.

7) black rayon liner - Ok

8) Z150 leather - Ok

9) nickel hardware - Silver or gunmetal would be best in my opinion.

10) please construct jacket with throat latch - nooooooooooo

11) please construct jacket snap-on / snap-off black mouton fur collar - nah

12) double-ended main zipper - yah

13) standard Vanson label - SFxVanson seems to be the most reasonable, but I also like the idea of something stupid and kitschy like "Style Van der Forum," "Not a Watanabe," or "Lil Fokker" being written on the label.

14) Ultra slimfit Japanese Fit with model C "action" back - I'm not sure what the "action" back is, but in terms of fit I think that this would work pretty well. @LA Guy do you think you'd have the opportunity to try on this model to see how it fits? I'm a muscly guy, but I still want something with a slim silhouette like this (Click to show)
main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=9457&g2_serialNumber=2
and not like this (Click to show)


15) size Large for prototype - sure

i am in agreement on most points as well
post #326 of 1505
Thewho13, action back means shoulder gussets.
Edited by Tuma - 5/6/14 at 11:34pm
post #327 of 1505
Shoulder gussets—yes.
post #328 of 1505
Thread Starter 


@Brian SD mocked this up for us. The proposed jacket will be on the ultra slim body. Cheers,

Fok.
post #329 of 1505
Nice. Very similar to the ToJ minimalist DR, right?
post #330 of 1505

Is that a clasp on the bottom? I like that if so, it's a good compromise

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