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post #1171 of 1517

Am I getting this right?

 

Daredevil in L has 19.5" shoulder to shoulder

SF jacket in L has 17.5" shoulder to shoulder

 

:butbut:

post #1172 of 1517
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Originally Posted by DividedWay View Post

The daredevil refers to the first iteration of the SF rider- with wide shoulders. The slim it daredevil refers to the narrower shoulders and shorter arms version coming.

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Originally Posted by nicelynice View Post

Thurston mentioned the slimfit Daredevil in addition to the standard Daredevil - I assumed that was the "SF Rider," unless I'm terribly confused.

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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

The above is correct.  I added notes to make things more clear. 

Personally, unless you *really* need a jacket ASAP, I would wait for the finished model.  I anticipate that it will, for most members, much better for street use.  @thekunk07
 is probably the exception.  That dude has ridiculously long arms on really wide shoulders.  i.e.  If Rick Owen's sleeves are "just right", then don't bother waiting.

Can we just not call the next iteration the daredevil? or at least have people aware that there is a DD and a slim fit DD thats where all the confusion is.
post #1173 of 1517
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Originally Posted by Distorbiant View Post

Am I getting this right?

Daredevil in L has 19.5" shoulder to shoulder
SF jacket in L has 17.5" shoulder to shoulder

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i think it was in S, see below buddy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thurston Bros View Post


The Measurements on the Standard Size Small Daredevil are:

41.5" Chest (full circumference)
19" Shoulder
37" Waist
*This is the standard Junya sizing

The Slimfit Daredevil in Size Small will be the same, but with a Shoulder measurement of 17"
post #1174 of 1517

I'm talking about size L though not S.

post #1175 of 1517
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by sinnedk View Post

Can we just not call the next iteration the daredevil? or at least have people aware that there is a DD and a slim fit DD thats where all the confusion is.

That would be even more confusing.

 

Look, I did not have any hand in the naming of the different models.  I am just trying to help people out.  

 

Here, lemme try again:

Derby = a standard jacket in the Vanson arsenal

Daredevil = the jacket based on the first prototype that we developed.  It is the exact same fit as the Junya jacket.  Available for preorder now.

Slimfit Daredevil = Final Styleforum "Japanese Slimfit Rider".  Still in development.  Final sample not yet made. @nicelynice, and @Distorbiant, you are both right about this one.

 

I personally think that the final jacket should just be referred to as the "Japanese Slimfit Rider", just like we originally proposed.  

post #1176 of 1517
Quote:
Originally Posted by Distorbiant View Post

I'm talking about size L though not S.

my bad i don't remember that measurement being posted
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

That would be even more confusing.

Look, I did not have any hand in the naming of the different models.  I am just trying to help people out.  

Here, lemme try again:
Derby = a standard jacket in the Vanson arsenal
Daredevil = the jacket based on the first prototype that we developed.  It is the exact same fit as the Junya jacket.  Available for preorder now.
Slimfit Daredevil = Final Styleforum "Japanese Slimfit Rider".  Still in development.  Final sample not yet made. @nicelynice
, and @Distorbiant
, you are both right about this one.

I personally think that the final jacket should just be referred to as the "Japanese Slimfit Rider", just like we originally proposed.  

+1 call it Japanese Slimfit Rider
post #1177 of 1517
Can we just refer to it by this image?



And have it sewn into the jacket?

(thanks for clearing this up!! @Synthese HURRY UP AND POST FITPICS!!!)
post #1178 of 1517
So will we be able to get a fit jacket shipped outside the USA or not?
post #1179 of 1517
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

So will we be able to get a fit jacket shipped outside the USA or not?

Yes...however, it will be an additional $60.00 USD + Customs fees + shipping back to us.  We do intl. fit jackets with our Aero jackets and it works quite well.  We send the finished, custom jacket as an exchange to avoid double Customs fees...

post #1180 of 1517
Quote:
Originally Posted by sinnedk View Post




Can we just not call the next iteration the daredevil? or at least have people aware that there is a DD and a slim fit DD thats where all the confusion is.

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post
 

That would be even more confusing.

 

Look, I did not have any hand in the naming of the different models.  I am just trying to help people out.  

 

Here, lemme try again:

Derby = a standard jacket in the Vanson arsenal

Daredevil = the jacket based on the first prototype that we developed.  It is the exact same fit as the Junya jacket.  Available for preorder now.

Slimfit Daredevil = Final Styleforum "Japanese Slimfit Rider".  Still in development.  Final sample not yet made. @nicelynice, and @Distorbiant, you are both right about this one.

 

I personally think that the final jacket should just be referred to as the "Japanese Slimfit Rider", just like we originally proposed.  

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by sinnedk View Post


my bad i don't remember that measurement being posted
+1 call it Japanese Slimfit Rider

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by nicelynice View Post

Can we just refer to it by this image?



And have it sewn into the jacket?

(thanks for clearing this up!! @Synthese HURRY UP AND POST FITPICS!!!)

 

We have to name the jacket a name that's consistent with the style-cluster that we're dealing with.  We're creating a range of slimfit Vanson designs that will be named Viper, Daredevil, Bullseye (we're still debating this name a bit), SheDevil, and Villainess.

post #1181 of 1517

When did everyone decide the shoulders needed reduced by a whole 2"?  That's a much larger change than what was discussed earlier in thread.  I'm sure there is a valid reason, probably me missing a post or something like that, but could someone explain?

 

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Originally Posted by Thurston Bros View Post
 


I think we'll decrease the shoulder-to-shoulder by .75 inches or 1 inch.  This will make the jacket considerable slimmer through the shoulders compared to the Junya and make it more of a fashion fit.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post
 

I think that the sleeves definitely need to be shortened.  Maybe decrease the shoulder width just a little bit.  I usually trust first impressions.  If you felt that it would be good to take in the shoulders slightly, I would do that, but maybe by just .5".

 

In response to a question about the updated L shoulder measurement

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Originally Posted by Thurston Bros View Post
 


It will be 18.75 inches.

So we went from that to this (which I forgot to quote):

 

"We're offering the standard fit right now....however, we're slimming the shoulder-to shoulder by 2 inches from the Junya fits...

 

What that means is that the shoulder-to-shoulder on the StyleForum.net fits will be

 

18.5" for size XL (46/48)

18" for size L (44)

17.5" for size M (40//42)

17" for size S (38)

16.5" for size XS (34/36)

16" for size XXS (32)"

post #1182 of 1517
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Originally Posted by burghler View Post
 

 

In response to a question about the updated L shoulder measurement

So we went from that to this (which I forgot to quote):

 

"We're offering the standard fit right now....however, we're slimming the shoulder-to shoulder by 2 inches from the Junya fits...

 

What that means is that the shoulder-to-shoulder on the StyleForum.net fits will be

 

18.5" for size XL (46/48)

18" for size L (44)

17.5" for size M (40//42)

17" for size S (38)

16.5" for size XS (34/36)

16" for size XXS (32)"


We took a good look at the shoulder-to-shoulder measurements of the Junya range and feel that a significantly slimmer upper back is the way to go...we're choosing an upper back profile that's consistent with really popular vintage jackets and awesome new fits, such as the Aero Board Racer.  We went from 1" decrease to 2" decrease in the upper back after some good thought and deliberation...

post #1183 of 1517
Quote:
Originally Posted by burghler View Post
 

 

In response to a question about the updated L shoulder measurement

So we went from that to this (which I forgot to quote):

 

"We're offering the standard fit right now....however, we're slimming the shoulder-to shoulder by 2 inches from the Junya fits...

 

What that means is that the shoulder-to-shoulder on the StyleForum.net fits will be

 

18.5" for size XL (46/48)

18" for size L (44)

17.5" for size M (40//42)

17" for size S (38)

16.5" for size XS (34/36)

16" for size XXS (32)"

 


IIRC the large Junya fit is 19.5" shoulder to shoulder, but Thurston says the SF Rider fit will be 18.75, but also says they're taking off 2" off the Junya, so I am really confused right now.

 

 

 

post #1184 of 1517
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Originally Posted by Distorbiant View Post
 

 


IIRC the large Junya fit is 19.5" shoulder to shoulder, but Thurston says the SF Rider fit will be 18.75, but also says they're taking off 2" off the Junya, so I am really confused right now.

 

 

 


For size L, the Junya jackets are officially 20 inches in the upper shoulder.  We're making the upper shoulder 18 inches for size L

post #1185 of 1517

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thurston Bros View Post
 


It will be 18.75 inches.

 

You said it was 18.75 for large a week ago...

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