Originally Posted by manself
Perhaps this thread is better forgotten, but I have to point out that you have resisted my request that you explain the appeal of the PN/P aesthetic to us Classic Menswear guys. Please tell us what you like about the silhouette, about the look, about the associations, the culture and who, in the public eye, is doing this look well? I'm genuinely interested.
I think this section of my original post should give you the answer:
I'm a spaceship pilot from the future. I have an exoskeleton. I'm a knight. I am Batman.
Are you asking me what I like about the crime-fighting superhero look? Or why this jacket makes me feel like Batman?
As far as who in the public eye is doing this look well, I have no idea. I know little more about these designers and the culture that surrounds them than you do. The idea for the piece is "classic menswear guy comes to streetwear store." I'm telling you what my eyes and body are telling me when I look at these pieces and try them on.@Fuuma
has written posts in this thread that are much more informative than mine. I encourage you to read them, if you are "genuinely interested." We both tried to engage you in a conversation here
, but you went away. If your question is, "what do people see in these clothes?" the posts so far provide the beginnings of an answer. If your question is "why won't you stop being so stupid and try to look like Cary Grant?" then we're not going to have a productive conversation.
But also would you please tell us, given that the thread was started as a very positive piece about PN/P, if you paid retail for your jacket, or if you're journalistically compromised? I'm not accusing you of anything, but I do think it's a fair question.
It's a fair question. I paid full retail price for the jacket. I actually didn't buy the jacket in the store, but ordered it from PN\P a couple of weeks after I got back to the United States. I took a little bit of literary license for the sake of the story and integrated the purchase with my visit, but I did not actually leave the store with the jacket. As a result I did not pay VAT, but this would be the case for anyone ordering from the US. I didn't pay shipping, but again, the store offers free shipping for large orders (I think anything over 1k euro). I got no special treatment or discount from the store. I expect to pay full sticker price for anything I order in the future from the store.
More generally, I've written about conflicts of interest in journalism here
. In the second link I disclose all products I had received for free up until that point. I try to make it clear when a store or manufacturer has given me something for free, for example here
. In these cases, it is always an offer initiated by whomever I'm covering. I never ask for free products, nor do I ever condition coverage on receiving free products.