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post #61 of 106
Quote:
Originally Posted by leetpuma View Post
 


I do not know what "pumped over" means...

 

 

Ah, I meant "bumped over" -- in the table it says "yes" under medallion+captoe, and we don't want the medallion.

post #62 of 106
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SidewinderX View Post
 

 

Ah, I meant "bumped over" -- in the table it says "yes" under medallion+captoe, and we don't want the medallion.


You are correct. Here is the fixed version:

 

Title: SUEDE

Adelade MT 

 

Lining

medalion + captoe

Peaked Heal counter

Last

Copper suede belt wanted? Not 100% We can get one.

Percent Certainty you will be participating

Does Leetpuma have your email yet?

Leetpuma

Red

medium no

Dont care

Olfe/park

 

95%

yes

P.henrik

-

Stong yes

-

 

 

 

 

denbo

purple

medium no

medium yes

Olfe / Park

100 cm

98%

Yes

griffion_id

red

medium no

dont care

park

 

 

Yes

agedashidofu

red

strong no

strong yes

park

Belt Please

 

Yes

SidewinderX 

red

medium no

Light yes

Olfe

 

80%

Yes

Eddielch

Sharp 

medium no

dont care

park

 

90%

Yes

13G411

Sharp

medium no

dont care

park

 

 

Yes

blue2007

no opinion

?

?

park

Kinda

 

Yes

Unregistered 

 purple 

 medium no

 no idea

 park

 belt - 34"

90%

 Yes

Fern

Red

no

no idea

Olfe for now till we know more about park

size 32"

90%

Yes

Shawl Lapel

red

Strong no

Strong yes

Olfe Maybe park

 

95%

Yes

ttrt

Red

Strong No

Strong Yes

Park

34”

95%

Yes

Osiris

Purple

Strong No

Either Olfe  

95%

Yes

               
               
               

 Decision

 red

 No medalion

Yes

 Olfe/Park

Yes dependent on size of waist. Price TBD. Probably the regular belt price.

 

 

 

Reguardless here are the specifics that Pepe has actually recieved at this point:

 

SHOE SPECIFICS: (As supplied to Pepe.)

As of now it seems like the MTO will basically be:
1) Leather Soles
2) Brogued captoe, just like the picture: http://cdn.styleforum.net/d/d4/d43f8168_image.jpeg
3) Copper Suede (reverse calf - higher quality LM suede)
4) Peaked Heal Counters
5) Olfe/Park Lasts  (about 7 park's and 2 olfe's)
6) Adelaide form factor, just like the picture: http://cdn.styleforum.net/d/d4/d43f8168_image.jpeg

7) Red shoe lining

8) Initials with brass nails on sole
9) Phrase on window in lining of shoe

10) Dark brown sole edge

post #63 of 106
Thread Starter 

Ok so I was doing some research.

Most LM suede that meermin uses is

Janus Calf Suede http://www.cfstead.com/content/products/januscalf.htm

Which is good 1.4-1.6mm thick

 

But to really go epic we could get:

http://www.cfstead.com/content/products/janusbutt.htm

Which is 2.0 - 2.4 thick

They even have a nice copperish color called "red dirt"

http://www.cfstead.com/content/products/janusbuttcoloursbig.jpg

 

This is probably the nicest suede that humans can buy. And I would like to see if Pepe can source it.

 

Would you guys be on board for this. Even if their is a upcharge? (I really think it will be worth it in the over all life of our shoes.)

 

Hell this suede may even make the carmina guys blush :P

 

Title: SUEDE

Adelade MT 

 

Lining

medalion + captoe

Peaked Heal counter

Last

Copper suede belt wanted? Not 100% We can get one.

Interested in super thick suede. Janus Butt

Percent Certainty you will be participating

Does Leetpuma have your email yet?

Leetpuma

Red

medium no

Dont care

Olfe/park

 

Strong Yes

95%

yes

P.henrik

-

Stong yes

-

 

 

 

 

 

denbo

purple

medium no

medium yes

Olfe / Park

100 cm

 

98%

Yes

griffion_id

red

medium no

dont care

park

 

 

 

Yes

agedashidofu

red

strong no

strong yes

park

Belt Please

 

 

Yes

SidewinderX 

red

medium no

Light yes

Olfe

 

 

80%

Yes

Eddielch

Sharp 

medium no

dont care

park

 

 

90%

Yes

13G411

Sharp

medium no

dont care

park

 

 

 

Yes

blue2007

no opinion

?

?

park

Kinda

 

 

Yes

Unregistered 

 purple 

 medium no

 no idea

 park

 belt - 34"

 

90%

 Yes

Fern

Red

no

no idea

Olfe for now till we know more about park

size 32"

 

90%

Yes

Shawl Lapel

red

Strong no

Strong yes

Olfe Maybe park

 

 

95%

Yes

ttrt

Red

Strong No

Strong Yes

Park

34”

 

95%

Yes

Osiris

Purple

Strong No

Either Olfe    

95%

Yes

                 
                 
                 

 Decision

 red

 No medalion

Yes

 Olfe/Park

Yes dependent on size of waist. Price TBD. Probably the regular belt price.

Costs and things very much in flux.

 

 

post #64 of 106
Thread Starter 

I have also asked Pepe:

 

I wanted to inquire as to if we could source a slightly different suede version.

I have read that Meermin is using Janus calfskin for normal LM suede.

Would it be possible to source Janus Butt calfskin for this MTO. This sude looks to be much thicker with tighter fibers. This MTO is now hovering around 13 people.

Janus Butt Calfskin (What we would like to use) : http://www.cfstead.com/content/products/janusbutt.htm
Janus Butt Colors (What we would like to use color red dirt): http://www.cfstead.com/content/products/janusbuttcoloursbig.jpg

Janus calfskin (What is normally used): http://www.cfstead.com/content/products/januscalf.htm

post #65 of 106
What would be the quality-wise to compare Janus with the LM reverse?
post #66 of 106
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by griffon_id View Post

What would be the quality-wise to compare Janus with the LM reverse?

I think you misunderstand. Janus is the same as LM reverse. Janus BUTT is new. The quality will be an order of magnitued higher.


Let me try to say this a differnty way:

 

regular LM Calf  = Janus suede Calf = medium quality reverse calf

 

New proposed  suede:

 

Never been made by meermin = Janus butt suede calf = High quality reverse calf

post #67 of 106
Quote:
Originally Posted by leetpuma View Post

I think you misunderstand. Janus is the same as LM reverse. Janus BUTT is new. The quality will be an order of magnitued higher.


Let me try to say this a differnty way:

regular LM Calf  = Janus suede Calf = medium quality reverse calf

New proposed  suede:

Never been made by meermin = Janus butt suede calf = High quality reverse calf

Got it. So Pepe will yet to feedback on the feasibility and any price change (if any)?
For the color, red dirt looks good. But not sure if it will be too much red and how far off is the red dirt to the copper suede?
post #68 of 106
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by griffon_id View Post


Got it. So Pepe will yet to feedback on the feasibility and any price change (if any)?
For the color, red dirt looks good. But not sure if it will be too much red and how far off is the red dirt to the copper suede?


Truthfully I bet "copper suede" is just rebranded red dirt by meermin. But no certainty there.

 

Actually i take that back it may be a bit more red. But either way the upgrade in leather quality will be more than worth it to me :)

post #69 of 106
Quote:
Originally Posted by leetpuma View Post


Truthfully I bet "copper suede" is just rebranded red dirt by meermin. But no certainty there.

Actually i take that back it may be a bit more red. But either way the upgrade in leather quality will be more than worth it to me smile.gif

I have a hard time to work with the table format in my PC, can you help to put down my comment on the Janus Butt Suede column as "Yes - but concern with color"?
Thanks.
post #70 of 106
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by griffon_id View Post


I have a hard time to work with the table format in my PC, can you help to put down my comment on the Janus Butt Suede column as "Yes - but concern with color"?
Thanks.


This is probably happening b/c you are using internet explorer. Firefox can copy and paste it with no problems. (If you are using IE I implore you to try chrome or firefox.)

Title: SUEDE

Adelade MT 

 

Lining

medalion + captoe

Peaked Heal counter

Last

Copper suede belt wanted? Not 100% We can get one.

Interested in super thick suede. Janus Butt

Percent Certainty you will be participating

Does Leetpuma have your email yet?

Leetpuma

Red

medium no

Dont care

Olfe/park

 

Strong Yes

95%

yes

P.henrik

-

Stong yes

-

 

 

 

 

 

denbo

purple

medium no

medium yes

Olfe / Park

100 cm

 

98%

Yes

griffion_id

red

medium no

dont care

park

 

Yes - tentative on color

 

Yes

agedashidofu

red

strong no

strong yes

park

Belt Please

 

 

Yes

SidewinderX 

red

medium no

Light yes

Olfe

 

 

80%

Yes

Eddielch

Sharp 

medium no

dont care

park

 

 

90%

Yes

13G411

Sharp

medium no

dont care

park

 

 

 

Yes

blue2007

no opinion

?

?

park

Kinda

 

 

Yes

Unregistered 

 purple 

 medium no

 no idea

 park

 belt - 34"

 

90%

 Yes

Fern

Red

no

no idea

Olfe for now till we know more about park

size 32"

 

90%

Yes

Shawl Lapel

red

Strong no

Strong yes

Olfe Maybe park

 

 

95%

Yes

ttrt

Red

Strong No

Strong Yes

Park

34”

 

95%

Yes

Osiris

Purple

Strong No

Either Olfe    

95%

Yes

                 
                 
                 

 Decision

 red

 No medalion

Yes

 Olfe/Park

Yes dependent on size of waist. Price TBD. Probably the regular belt price.

Costs and things very much in flux.

 

 

post #71 of 106
Quote:
Originally Posted by leetpuma View Post
 

Title: SUEDE

Adelade MT 

 

Lining

medalion + captoe

Peaked Heal counter

Last

Copper suede belt wanted? Not 100% We can get one.

Interested in super thick suede. Janus Butt

Percent Certainty you will be participating

Does Leetpuma have your email yet?

Leetpuma

Red

medium no

Dont care

Olfe/park

 

Strong Yes

95%

yes

P.henrik

-

Stong yes

-

 

 

 

 

 

denbo

purple

medium no

medium yes

Olfe / Park

100 cm

 

98%

Yes

griffion_id

red

medium no

dont care

park

 

Yes - tentative on color

 

Yes

agedashidofu

red

strong no

strong yes

park

Belt Please

 

 

Yes

SidewinderX 

red

medium no

Light yes

Olfe

 

 

80%

Yes

Eddielch

Sharp 

medium no

dont care

park

 

 

90%

Yes

13G411

Sharp

medium no

dont care

park

 

 

 

Yes

blue2007

no opinion

?

?

park

Kinda

 

 

Yes

Unregistered 

 purple 

 medium no

 no idea

 park

 belt - 34"

 

90%

 Yes

Fern

Red

no

no idea

Olfe for now till we know more about park

size 32"

Yes, but no red dirt.

90%

Yes

Shawl Lapel

red

Strong no

Strong yes

Olfe Maybe park

 

 

95%

Yes

ttrt

Red

Strong No

Strong Yes

Park

34”

 

95%

Yes

Osiris

Purple

Strong No

Either Olfe    

95%

Yes

                 
                 
                 

 Decision

 red

 No medalion

Yes

 Olfe/Park

Yes dependent on size of waist. Price TBD. Probably the regular belt price.

Costs and things very much in flux.

 

 

post #72 of 106

fwiw I just want suede that is copper suede and the colour that's basically been shown in all the pics before today..don't know what this red dirt business is.

post #73 of 106
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osiris2012 View Post
 

fwiw I just want suede that is copper suede and the colour that's basically been shown in all the pics before today..don't know what this red dirt business is.

I am flexible about the color.

But I really would like to see if we can get this leather.

This is so much better than the normal LM suede.

 

These hides are pulled from the butt of the animal much like shell cordovan. The grain of the animal's leather is much much tighter there.

leading to more even suede and much longer lasting leather.

 

If Pepe shoots us down then we can go back to the regular reverse calf but I really do think this is worth doing. This high quality suede will make the shoes last much longer and look nicer the whole time.

 

Here is an example of how much stronger butt leather is under an microscope:

This is pic is for shell cordovan but the principal still applies with calf skin leathers. That CL layer is very strong.

post #74 of 106
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osiris2012 View Post

fwiw I just want suede that is copper suede and the colour that's basically been shown in all the pics before today..don't know what this red dirt business is.

x2
post #75 of 106
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osiris2012 View Post

fwiw I just want suede that is copper suede and the colour that's basically been shown in all the pics before today..don't know what this red dirt business is.

I also prefer the original copper suede
Thx
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