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post #121 of 217
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I can understand that you would not want to add a complete layer. It may make the soles last longer but there are downsides: reduced ventilation, moisture may get trapped (which may damage the sole and/or welt). More importantly even, the way the shoes wear may be affected because of the extra layer, small as it may be.

But if the toe tip is first to wear I can't understand why you wouldn't add steel tips, because none of the above downsides apply in case of good sunken rust-free steel tips. If you don't trust any cobbler in London with this work you could consider sending the shoes to Nils Kalf in Amsterdam, he is a very good craftsman as many users of the Dutch version of Styleforum will confirm. The charges for sending the shoes back and forth will be relatively hefty though.

I have rubber toe taps on my Vass and I prefer those to the metal version. They have the advantage that they still wear down through use, although at a slower rate than leather, hence to some degree matching the wear on the midsole.

But in the absence of toe taps on the JL, what's the worse that can happen if I wear down to the welt at the toe? I think the welt can be replaced during a recraft without having to replace the insole.
post #122 of 217
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Mark,

they are actually the Becketts in 8000 (Prestige) last.



It may be just my eyes but am I right to say that your shoes are a tad loose on the heel as it looks like the shoes does not 'cup' your heel? I find this is typically the issues with my JLs

Phew!! finally. all my JL's except for the Tudor boots dont cup my heel and I actually thought there was an issue with my size(9.5). now it seems its a general issue with most JL's. have these exact Becketts in Parisian museum calf and they dont cup either

post #123 of 217

Nikola - many thanks for the thoughtful reply. Certainly seems to be a choice between Parisian brown and Plum.

post #124 of 217
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I have rubber toe taps on my Vass and I prefer those to the metal version. They have the advantage that they still wear down through use, although at a slower rate than leather, hence to some degree matching the wear on the midsole.

But in the absence of toe taps on the JL, what's the worse that can happen if I wear down to the welt at the toe? I think the welt can be replaced during a recraft without having to replace the insole.

Well, be carefull not to wear trough the toes too much. When I handed in my shoes to the cobbler (with the toes really worn) he looked at them for a while in silence and then warned me that I should never allow the sole to wear at the toe-tip this much again. And when I got my shoes back the welt was more curled up at the toes. To my eyes the difference is clearly visible. I didn't actually ask the cobbler but I fear the shoes will never be able to be fully resoled again. These were "just" blake rapid Santoni's but were still my best shoes at the time. If you walk on better shoes like Lobbs I would really watch out if I were you, better to hand in the shoes a bit early than to find out later that you have damaged the welt and thus limited the capacity of the shoes to be resoled.

 

And the flush metal too caps wear out too. Faster than the leather sole actually but maybe I am an extreme toe-walker. :)

 

As far as rubber tips go I would have thought that those would make you faceplant occasionaly because they do not have the slick character of leather and metal. But apparently not.. :)

post #125 of 217
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LS7, they sure aged beautifully, great shoe care you have.
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I don't think Parisian brown is offered anywhere other than JL afaik. Beautiful color that I would purchase if I had the option though. However, I think brown, gold, and plum are all must haves. I do feel that it's hard to tell what the real color of the museum calf is since makers call them by different names and they vary so much by the batch. i.e. I still don't know what my siennas are. However, I think there are 13 different colors IIRC?

Dark brown museum, parisian brown museum, plum museum, chestnut museum, black, dark oak, burgundy, red museum calf, new gold, pewter museum, merlot museum, green museum, navy museum.

First one to collect all the colors and post a picture of them side by side wins biggrin.gif.
post #127 of 217
my contribution.....Ilcea museum calf handmade wallet

post #128 of 217
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my contribution.....Ilcea museum calf handmade wallet

Wonderful!!! This shows that Museum Calf has many possible uses.

Sorry cgo who is the manufacturer of this wallet?

post #129 of 217
Thanks. It is Chestermox

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Not sure why it took me so long to find this thread.  

 

@RogerP really looking forward to seeing those Vass navy.  If they come out nice, I may be right behind you.  

 

My chester mox and DC Lewis boots. Neither great lighting.  

 

 

post #131 of 217
Those boots are great! Not sure if that's the 101 last but my Oxfords on that are about my most comfortable shoes
post #132 of 217
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I don't think Parisian brown is offered anywhere other than JL afaik. Beautiful color that I would purchase if I had the option though. However, I think brown, gold, and plum are all must haves. I do feel that it's hard to tell what the real color of the museum calf is since makers call them by different names and they vary so much by the batch. i.e. I still don't know what my siennas are. However, I think there are 13 different colors IIRC?

Dark brown museum, parisian brown museum, plum museum, chestnut museum, black, dark oak, burgundy, red museum calf, new gold, pewter museum, merlot museum, green museum, navy museum.

First one to collect all the colors and post a picture of them side by side wins biggrin.gif.

There are way more museum calf colors than what you've listed. Some obvious missed colors include ivory, sand, and sky. And then there are different weight/thickness of museum calves as well.
post #133 of 217
Please post pictures of said colors! Never seen them.
post #134 of 217
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Please post pictures of said colors! Never seen them.

 

Go to JL store at NYC or Irvine and ask for leather sample book. 

 

I remember seeing leather sample book at Leather Soul as well.

post #135 of 217

chogall, For example, nearest JL store is like 3 states away from me (Im not in the US) .. Not everyone is in a position to browse their sample book.

Ironist, even if someone here upload the photos, it won't mean much to you, as the Museum Calf color are really hard to catch on camera, also the leather differs from batch to batch .. depends where the photo was taken (indoor, outdoor, bright day light, sunny day, rainy day ... ) all these factor dramatically affect the appearance of the Museum color.

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