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post #76 of 85
Now HF, that's a great post. Who knew? Thomas Beckett the daddy of them all!
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post #78 of 85
My late step father had something of the wide boy about him. He loved clothes but his particular poison was the English country gent look. He never quite got it right though - too clean and tidy, too forced. Easily identifiable by the county set as an outsider. He was a Londoner, and Jewish, and didn't know one end of a pheasant from the other.
post #79 of 85
Great thread Holdfast.

Makes me think of Swiss Tony.

post #80 of 85
"Is there life on Mars?
Is there life on Mars?
Is there life in Peckham?
Is there life in Peckham?"
post #81 of 85
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Originally Posted by Holdfast View Post

Great post.

I was thinking about this topic a bit yesterday, and realised just how old this archetype is. If you want a time-immemorial - almost literally - archetype of the wide-boy, they should look no further than Thomas Becket. Son of a working class (wealthy, sure, but money mattered a bit less in feudal days) London merchant, he used wit & charm to gain the favour of Henry II, and before becoming Archbishop enjoyed definitely wearing fine clothes in a somewhat showy way e.g. scarlet furs, in order to send out a message that he'd made it.

I have nothing to say, only wanted to express how impressed I am -- Thomas Becket reference in Style Forum!!
post #82 of 85
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Originally Posted by The Ernesto View Post

Great thread Holdfast.

Makes me think of Swiss Tony.

 

A little taste of Swiss Tony (double entendre naturally entirely intended) for the Americans:

 

"Making a cup of coffee is like making love to a beautiful woman. It's got to be hot. You've got to take your time. You've got to stir... gently and firmly. You've got to grind your beans until they squeak. And then you put in the milk."

 

"Washing a car, is very much like making love to a beautiful woman. You've got to caress the bodywork. Breathe softly and gently. And give every inch of it your loving attention. And make sure you've got a nice wet sponge."

 

"Checking the details of a second-hand car is very much like making love to a beautiful woman. First of all, verify her year of origin. She may look like she rolled off the production line in 1990 but who's to say the fellow before you didn't give her a good spraying?"

 

And of course, my favourite, being a shrink:

 

"And yet, having therapy is very much like making love to a beautiful woman. You get on the couch, string 'em along with some half-lies and evasions, probe some deep dark holes, and then hand over all your money."

 

Originally Posted by Coburn View Post

I have nothing to say, only wanted to express how impressed I am -- Thomas Becket reference in Style Forum!!

 

I'm grateful for the compliment, but given his fame, a bit concerned that that's the low expectation by which SF is judged. :D

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Originally Posted by Holdfast View Post

A little taste of Swiss Tony (double entendre naturally entirely intended) for the Americans:

"Making a cup of coffee is like making love to a beautiful woman. It's got to be hot. You've got to take your time. You've got to stir... gently and firmly. You've got to grind your beans until they squeak. And then you put in the milk."

"Washing a car, is very much like making love to a beautiful woman. You've got to caress the bodywork. Breathe softly and gently. And give every inch of it your loving attention. And make sure you've got a nice wet sponge."

"Checking the details of a second-hand car is very much like making love to a beautiful woman. First of all, verify her year of origin. She may look like she rolled off the production line in 1990 but who's to say the fellow before you didn't give her a good spraying?"

And of course, my favourite, being a shrink:

"And yet, having therapy is very much like making love to a beautiful woman. You get on the couch, string 'em along with some half-lies and evasions, probe some deep dark holes, and then hand over all your money."

So puerile. So funny.

Of course, as you know, I'm a very keen fisherman myself. You know, I've often thought that going fishing was very much like making love to a beautiful woman. First of all, clean and inspect your tackle, carefully pull back your rod cover, and remove any dirt or gunge that may have built up whilst not in use. Then, extend your rod to its full length, and check that there are no kinks or any wear, particularly at the base, where the grip is usually applied. Make sure you've got a decent float, the appropriate bait, and that there's plenty of shot in your bag.
post #84 of 85
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“[…] the wide-boy is much more on the borderline between petty criminal and legitimate entrepreneur, wanting to be the latter but sometimes having to shade into the former to make ends meet. [...]”

 

 

I’ve always been puzzled by the purposeful use of this look and similar looks (“slightly shady,” as Holdfast aptly put it elsewhere) in advertisements intended to sell you something, be it used cars, no-fee-if-we-don’t-win legal services, or whatever.   But you see it often in television ads in the US.   You’d think the advertiser would want to project an image of trustworthiness and honesty, so why use visual images associated with the opposite?

 

Is it just a class identification thing, do you think?   Are the ads trying to target working class consumers, with the intended message being “I’m one of you”?   If not, what is the intended message?

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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