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post #2866 of 6215
More options are usually better, unless they are at the expense of more colors and sizing inventory.

If you were to pick just one, I'd go for fused just because it is more versatile. Also would sit under jacket lapels better without a tie. Here is me from last weekend:

post #2867 of 6215
Yes, fused please.
post #2868 of 6215

fused

post #2869 of 6215
Thread Starter 

The trad look is getting trounced. We are leaning that way too for the new group.

post #2870 of 6215
I vote for (lighty) fused too - more polyvalent! @Darkside I see we have the same "issue" about unruly collar!
post #2871 of 6215
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ShawnBC View Post

I vote for (lighty) fused too - more polyvalent! @Darkside I see we have the same "issue" about unruly collar!

 

Yeah, without the extra support, the unfused collars will pretty much do what they want under a jacket or sweater.

post #2872 of 6215
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Originally Posted by ShawnBC View Post

I vote for (lighty) fused too - more polyvalent! @Darkside I see we have the same "issue" about unruly collar!

I just chalk it up to "sprezzatura" and wear without care. The shirts are too inexpensive to complain, and I don't think it looks bad at all. I do love how they continually strive to improve the product though. Something you don't see very often.
post #2873 of 6215

Wow...this might be a draw for me. Without a tie I think I prefer the fused, as it might help it stand up tall, which is what I like, especially if you wear it with a jacket or sweater. I feel that if you're going to wear a tie with an OCBD you're doing it with a casual bent, in which case the unfused might be better. Having said this, I own a Kamakura and like that collar. As I'm typing this I realize I'm wearing a Brook Brothers OCBD and feeling the collar I think it may be the same as the Kamakura. So I guess this means if I had to vote, I'd say lightly fused/lined. I think it's more about the collar roll than the fusing anyways.

 

BTW - what's the ETA for those of us that bought custom shirts during Black Friday? I'm itching to see how well I managed to figure out my measurements! :) 

post #2874 of 6215
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Originally Posted by spiermackay View Post
 

Ok Gentlemen, here is a direct comparison of our current OCBD collar, which is completely unlined vs. Kamakura which has a fused collar.

 

First is ours: You can see the softness of the collar, which causes it to have a bit of rumpling, creases and unevenness when worn with a tie. This is pretty much exactly how it should behave as a traditional, unlined OCBD.


 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

Here is the Kamakura shirt. You can see the fusing gives a "crispness" and evenness to the collar.

 

 

What we are thinking is now, to run a fused version as the "main" oxford. This works with/without a tie and good for suits/sportcoats, etc. Possibly, develop a slightly heavier fabric for a more casual version, which would be unfused.

 

Oh, BTW, having both shirts side by side, everyone in our office agrees our new oxford fabric is superior to the Kamakura's.

 

Thoughts?

 

It may just be the pictures, but it appears that the collar buttons on the Kamakura are closer to the collar points than the SM version.  I like the Kamakura collar better, but the SM collar is nice too.  

post #2875 of 6215
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It may just be the pictures, but it appears that the collar buttons on the Kamakura are closer to the collar points than the SM version.  I like the Kamakura collar better, but the SM collar is nice too.  


I'll add to that, I think Kamakura's collar buttons are relatively slightly higher, decreasing the distance the collar point travels and creating more of a roll.  I don't know if that makes sense.

post #2876 of 6215
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I'll add to that, I think Kamakura's collar buttons are relatively slightly higher, decreasing the distance the collar point travels and creating more of a roll.  I don't know if that makes sense.

Yeah it does.  I agree.  The Kamakura collar also has a very high collar band compared to the the majority of BD shirts I own.  

post #2877 of 6215
I ordered a couple OCBD shirts along with the twill gingham and soft washed chambray. I'm happy with the shirts but after the first wash, the chambray shirt shrunk quite a bit. The others were fine. Anybody have the same experience? The shirts were washed in cold water.
post #2878 of 6215
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Originally Posted by JFUNG View Post

I ordered a couple OCBD shirts along with the twill gingham and soft washed chambray. I'm happy with the shirts but after the first wash, the chambray shirt shrunk quite a bit. The others were fine. Anybody have the same experience? The shirts were washed in cold water.

 

Did you put it in the dryer?

post #2879 of 6215
No,just left them to air dry.
post #2880 of 6215

Looking forward to buying some of these new fused collar OCBDs whenever they drop. I already have 4 Spier shirts unworn, still in original packaging. I feel like I'm just hoarding at this point but... nah, I'm gonna buy some more.

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