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Thing is, it depends what kind of exposure you ultimately want to attain - yes, getting websites and reviewers to constantly recommend or throw S&M into the limelight is great, but at the time being it may throw you guys too much business to handle. Not to mention some sites overdo it and it makes it seem like they are shilling for a specific company. I'm all for word of mouth, because let's face it - S&M is still relatively new and local so to speak. With the new DT location opening up, I think that alone will drum up lots more business than paying sites to feature your products.

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Darkside - very nice shirt and trousers! Trousers are OTR?

 

Thanks Shawn. Shirt and Trousers are both OTR Contemporary fit from Spier and Mackay. The Semi-Spread is a winner @spiermackay .

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What size cuffs did you go with on your trousers? Looks around 2"...? Did you slim the leg openings or is that the OTR opening? Thanks!
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I have to say, I'm a bit disappointed about the extra sleeve length. I know that the Garrison Chambray shrank more than I'd have preferred but my other shirt (Royal Twill) is pretty perfect.
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I have to say, I'm a bit disappointed about the extra sleeve length. I know that the Garrison Chambray shrank more than I'd have preferred but my other shirt (Royal Twill) is pretty perfect.

 

It was a change that was inevitable. A lot of our in store customers were asking for increased length as well. When we first started, the 15.5 had a 35.5 sleeve. Then it was dialed back to 34.5. The recent change has been very well received by most.

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Glad you're making the change Rick.  It's unfortunate that it's too long for some customers; however, at least they have the option of reducing the length through a tailor while longer limb folks are outta luck. 

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Next step: shirts with different sleeve lengths! teacha.gif

I'll have to wait for those given the recent increase in default length
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What size cuffs did you go with on your trousers? Looks around 2"...? Did you slim the leg openings or is that the OTR opening? Thanks!

The cuffs are 2" and they do look pretty bold. I enjoy them. I did not get them tapered. I can't imagine going slimmer than the contemporary fit is already.

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Next step: shirts with different sleeve lengths! teacha.gif

I'll have to wait for those given the recent increase in default length

It wouldn't make economical sense to introduce sleeve lengths for them. Even companies like Kamakura use fixed sleeve lengths for neck sizes. These sleeve lengths are based on data taken on average shirt sizes of thousands of men. If they want to, they can offer an inexpensive sleeve shortening service upon order, as Ledbury does. Or you can go MTM.

Curiously, I am usually a 16-34.5, but the sleeves on 16 Contemporary fit on these S&M shirts fit me well.
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It wouldn't make economical sense to introduce sleeve lengths for them. Even companies like Kamakura use fixed sleeve lengths for neck sizes. These sleeve lengths are based on data taken on average shirt sizes of thousands of men. If they want to, they can offer an inexpensive sleeve shortening service upon order, as Ledbury does. Or you can go MTM.

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I recall Rick was mulling introducing different sleeve lengths. He probably can speak better what makes economical sense to him but as is now, only a subset of clients can buy OTR shirts. Perhaps that's good enough for him, I dunno. I'll cross my fingers for different lengths and (eventually) some non irons as well.
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Thanks Shawn. Shirt and Trousers are both OTR Contemporary fit from Spier and Mackay. The Semi-Spread is a winner @spiermackay .

Agree with the collar and happy to see the last couple batch of OTR shirts are with semi-spread.

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I recall Rick was mulling introducing different sleeve lengths. He probably can speak better what makes economical sense to him but as is now, only a subset of clients can buy OTR shirts. Perhaps that's good enough for him, I dunno. I'll cross my fingers for different lengths and (eventually) some non irons as well.

 

Still tinkering with the idea of multiple lengths. Again, this is something that makes more sense as we expand our customer base. I don't think it affects us a huge amount having the single sleeve length. As stated before many other companies, much larger than us use a single sleeve. Kamakura is one, the other is ETON, Who produce more than 100k shirts/month.

 

That said, from a customer POV, multiple options make more sense and that's the direction we prefer to go, but we need the expanded base for that to really make sense. I think we should be there fairly soon though.

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Rick,

 

Your MTM program is so affordable that alternative sleeve length is absurb IMO. 

 

 

The fact that your inventory is bought quite fast makes me think its not really an issue.   And I need to shorten all my sleeves, so believe me I'd welcome it, but in my mind makes no sense to carry 12-18 different sizes/variations per fabric...  I'd rather have to shorten sleeves, and have a wider option of fabrics and collars to select from.    

 

Likely the guys with 33" and under sleeves would still have to shorten anyways, so you really only pleasing the longer armed gents.. 

Thanks for the trouser code, just ordered a pair. :cheers: 

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Rick,

 

Your MTM program is so affordable that alternative sleeve length is absurb IMO. 

 

 

The fact that your inventory is bought quite fast makes me think its not really an issue.   And I need to shorten all my sleeves, so believe me I'd welcome it, but in my mind makes no sense to carry 12-18 different sizes/variations per fabric...  I'd rather have to shorten sleeves, and have a wider option of fabrics and collars to select from.    

 

Likely the guys with 33" and under sleeves would still have to shorten anyways, so you really only pleasing the longer armed gents.. 

Thanks for the trouser code, just ordered a pair. :cheers: 

 

There are always a lot of things to think about as we grow. Especially product assortment and size ratio, etc. We've been doing really well, but we can always do better by adapting to what our customers need. We do our best to keep our eyes and ears open and listen to the feedback and adapt the best we can.

 

YW for the code. BTW for the rest of you gentlemen, all regular priced dress trousers are 20% Off. use code: NEEDPANTS

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Thanks @spiermackay for the trouser code.  Have there been any changes in construction or design of current trousers (e.g. grey houndstooth) vs trousers from last year (specifically, the camel flannels)?  

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Thanks @spiermackay for the trouser code.  Have there been any changes in construction or design of current trousers (e.g. grey houndstooth) vs trousers from last year (specifically, the camel flannels)?  

 

Nothing significant. Just used a double hook/eye closer which is stronger and spreads the tension more evenly across the front. Other than that, pretty much the same.

 

Edit, the inseam is now 37.5" up from 36" for those who are taller and wanted a bit more length to achieve a larger cuff.


Edited by spiermackay - 10/22/15 at 11:06am
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