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post #496 of 634
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Originally Posted by covskin View Post


It has been a very therapeutic four months for me, getting various things off my chest.

Still looking for a decent, plain, no-logo polo shirt. Have kept two old M&S blue harbour ones in the meanwhile but expected to have stumbled across something suitable by now. Had a look in Lacoste today and they seemed fairly nice but the logo is not for me so it looks like I might have to fall back onto Fred Perry unless someone knows better (Sunspel, any others?)

Have a look on e bay at Hanes beefy polos,better material than modern FP or Lacoste IMO,loads of colours and about £12/13 sent to your house,I buy them and I like their sleeve length too.

Make sure that you put Hanes beefy polo into search not just Hanes polo as they do a thinner cheaper version.

post #497 of 634
^ ^^ thanks, hoping to find something with that 'fading at the edges' substance of an old Fred Perry. Last one I got in the late 90s faded and went lank almost as soon as I looked at it. The first leg down in quality? A faded/jaded look came around soon after, just in time for the holes in my 501s!
Edited by covskin - 7/14/14 at 3:13am
post #498 of 634
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It is good to see you here Kingstonian bringing us back down to earth! Yes, I have kept up my obsession, which started for me not with the skinhead era but in watching my granddad polish his boots when I was a very small boy.

Of course you could buy some skinhead stuff on the High Street and nearly all the early 70s fashions, but for me the thrill of finding something just a bit different continued to be a driving force.

I am sure you chose the word ‘delegated’ carefully with its overtones of passing over a simple task for which little initiative or interest is required. It also suggests that worrying about clothes or appearance should somehow not be the concern of a grown-up man. I have never delegated these weighty responsibilities other than with very clear instructions to the unhappy emissary!

I agree though that I would like to buy more on the High Street if it were available and just sometimes it still is. Today I happen to be wearing a new pair of double monk straps that I bought in M&S from their ‘Jeffery-West for Autograph’ range. But they are very much the exception and I doubt that any other item of my present outfit could now be found without a bit of time and effort:

Navy SB woollen blazer 3 (MOP) buttons and POW trousers – Roger Crawford bespoke
White shirt with navy window pane check – Hawes and Curtis
Navy silk knitted tie – Budd Shirtmakers
Paisley silk hank – Etro
Tie bar – Dunhill and cufflinks – Toye, Kenning and Spencer
Navy and lighter blues Argyle OTC cotton sox – Bresciani

In my home town in 1969 by comparison I could have found an equivalent of all the above without straying far from the centre.
post #499 of 634
Maybe delegation was easier when clothing was more conventional?

Plain white or blue shirts,of reasonable quality, at a good price for example. With shoes, size was known. Nobody was buying shoes from overseas, so derbies for a high instep and you were sorted. Black shoes of course and lace ups.

Despite delegation most men usually looked - at least - OK. Grown men did not wear shorts unless they were playing sports. Everybody had a collar which usually looks better than a T shirt and less people were overweight.
post #500 of 634
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Maybe delegation was easier when clothing was more conventional?



Plain white or blue shirts,of reasonable quality, at a good price for example. With shoes, size was known. Nobody was buying shoes from overseas, so derbies for a high instep and you were sorted. Black shoes of course and lace ups.



Despite delegation most men usually looked - at least - OK. Grown men did not wear shorts unless they were playing sports. Everybody had a collar which usually looks better than a T shirt and less people were overweight.

 



I agree with all the above!

Don't get me started on shorts.....but I do detect very young blokes spurning the 'age of nudity' and choosing to cover up. It will go full circle I suppose.
post #501 of 634
I have been looking for something that might operate as a touchstone for 'the Look', a quick and easy tester to find if something works within 'the Look'. For me I think it is a pair of blue 501s - goes with everything from polos to ma1s to crombies and even suits - if only because no jeans are required! - but not odd jackets, which may go towards explaining my problem with 'country' tweed jackets.

Any other ideas on what might operate as touchstone for 'the Look'?
Edited by covskin - 7/15/14 at 12:14pm
post #502 of 634

How do you wear a pair of jeans with a suit? :wow:

post #503 of 634
^ well yes, not needing jeans with a suit is just too convenient a get out for my idea. Also, blazer-type odd jackets do not go with jeans either, but in this case a pair of standard POW trousers or stapress supply the deficiency in a way that does not extend to country tweed-type jackets (to my mind country jackets go with furry/fuckingred trousers, not POW or stapress). All just my opinion of course - that jeans go with things is not a particularly great insight anyway!
Edited by covskin - 7/16/14 at 7:23am
post #504 of 634
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I am still not sure what the last few posts are about - is it a kind of code?

But I like the idea of a touchstone for the Look and have been giving it a bit of thought...
post #505 of 634
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I am still not sure what the last few posts are about - is it a kind of code?

But I like the idea of a touchstone for the Look and have been giving it a bit of thought...

I have also been thinking about the "touchstone" idea,and I think that maybe its a plain polo shirt,could be worn with anything else in "the look" ?,even a suit I suppose.

post #506 of 634
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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post
 

I have also been thinking about the "touchstone" idea,and I think that maybe its a plain polo shirt,could be worn with anything else in "the look" ?,even a suit I suppose.

It is a tricky one as the passage of time has made its mark on some items of clothing and some brands in a negative way.

 

The A to Z of Mod by Paolo Hewitt and Mark Baxter lists some of those items / brands that have perhaps stood the test of time.  Even within this select-ish group some items have been appropriated by different types of people or fashion movements so that their use as a touchstone or benchmark for the Look is challenged IMO.  Their list includes:

 

Baracuta G9

Bass Weejuns
Brooks Brothers
Clarks Desert Boots

Levis 501s

The Parka (huh?)

Fred Perry

Ben Sherman

Tootal scarves

 

Now, if I saw someone wearing an original Tootal cravat or scarf I would probably think they were In The Know.  G9 perhaps.   All the other items / brands to my mind could be worn by just about anyone today.

 

Now, let's take the example of the polo shirt.  If I saw a man in a well-cut suit with a say, charcoal grey 3 button JS polo (buttoned up) I would say to myself 'Yes'!  If I saw a fat git in Morrison's in a faded pale blue nondescript  polo and shorts it would have a slightly different effect!

 

So, is there an item or a thing or is it a way of dressing and holding yourself that is the real benchmark?  I fancy it is a combination of the two.

 

One item of clothing that was always very dear to the skinhead's heart was footwear and I still often start with the shoe glance and tend to work my way up when assessing someone's look.  Anyone else do this?

post #507 of 634
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The Look in Summer.  The torrid heat has made me return to one of my pet themes.  How can we possibly look good when the thermometer touches 90F? - as it is expected to here tomorrow.

 

The Englishman (and woman) has a very simple approach - take all your clothes off!  One of my neighbours, who is a very nice chap, insists on sporting t shirt, shorts and flip flops in winter, so where is there left for him to go in July??

 

I have been looking for images of people who manage to retain their cool (and their clothing) in hot weather.  As usual Italy provides the best examples including a young woman in Milano in this onesie:

 

post #508 of 634
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The Look goes on in summer.  Florence in July:

 

 

post #509 of 634
Wow, sunny England is getting a bit TOO sunny, eh? Welcome to the club; Boston summers are like that--it's brutal. I tend to go with something like this:

White Fred Perry(non-tipped)
Levi 501's(I have a few pairs of really thin ones)
J Press sand colored canvas belt
Happy socks or something else mid-calf and thin)
Clarks desert boots(surprisingly comfy in the heat)

Or
Blue oxford cloth buttondown(sleeves cuffed twice of course)
British tan Brooks Bros lightweight Clark chinos or LL Bean chinos(no crease)
Thin burgundy leather belt or dark brown leather and navy stretch belt
Burgundy Weejuns and navy socks or Quoddy dark brown boat shoes with no-see-'em socks

Both I believe are good summer looks and you won't lose your cool... Or your cool....


Granted, I suppose the above would be for the younger set... shog[1].gif
post #510 of 634

One of the problems with the summer months in England ( and New England ) is humidity,the summer in mainland Europe although hotter is more pleasant IMO.

 

I am up early today as we have had a thunderstorm all night but the temperature  has not dropped and it is still humid and uncomfortable.

 

Tomorrow I am going to a football match in Bath,the weather forecast is heavy thundery storms,a chance of hail while remaining hot and humid !.... what to wear in that lot ?

 

I had intended on trainers/jeans/polo shirt....well trainers are out now because of the rain,jeans will be too uncomfortable with the heat and humidity.....perhaps I should go in "festival gear" wellies, shorts,vest and polythene poncho ?...but I wont.

 

Seems like a choice though,dont wear a waterproof coat and you get wet with the rain,do wear a waterproof coat and get soaked with sweat !, neither choice ideal.

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