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Blazers, I have 2 a black one and a navy one,they both have gold metal buttons,now I used to think that was ok but as I get older I am thinking that perhaps I look like a bloke from a Bowls club.

A bloke that I know wears blazers with plain buttons,his blazers don't look as heavy as mine (mine are wool) I don't know what material his are made of, Cotton maybe or linen and cotton perhaps.

So what are peoples thoughts for summer blazers ?,what material ? what kind of buttons ?..

post #1922 of 2796
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Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post
 


 

About the polo and blazer combo, this is classical men's staple here (and in Italy). Of course you have to take care about color and material combinations, but it's a very basic look, that is appropriate in the majority of situations and that can be very smart IMO. 

I prefer to wear polos with not too formal jackets (like cord, cotton, linen, and more than often 'natural shoulder' type), but you can achieve a very smart look with a formal blazer and a high end long sleeve polo like the Eidos Lupo (Italian) that seems to have the favor of some trendy posters of the CM section.

I have seen the Blazer / polo combination in Italy and Spain, sometimes with light coloured trousers and loafers with no socks.

As you say though the polo / blazer can look smart.

 

The other look that I have noticed in Italy (which I don't like) is a polo shirt with a v neck jumper worn over the shoulders,tight trousers,loafers with no socks,sunglasses on the top of head...this is usually worn by older blokes with long straggly hair who seem to think that they are great with women but seldom seem to be with a woman...

sorry if this is 'negative stereotyping'.


Edited by cerneabbas - 5/15/16 at 9:06am
post #1923 of 2796
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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post

Blazers, I have 2 a black one and a navy one,they both have gold metal buttons,now I used to think that was ok but as I get older I am thinking that perhaps I look like a bloke from a Bowls club.
A bloke that I know wears blazers with plain buttons,his blazers don't look as heavy as mine (mine are wool) I don't know what material his are made of, Cotton maybe or linen and cotton perhaps.
So what are peoples thoughts for summer blazers ?,what material ? what kind of buttons ?..


I have a navy linen jacket with dark horn buttons that I'll sometimes use as a blazer for dressier summer occasions. It's definitely English cut with hacking pockets, ticket pocket, higher stance gorge, etc. also a black super 100s wool blazer with muted pewter buttons I swapped for the gold ones. Pretty breathable and decent for summer evening occasions. Also have a super 100s worsted wool O'Connell's travel blazer. Has smoke MOP buttons, center vent, 3/2 roll, nat shoulders, undarted, etc. resists wrinkles, looks good with a white long sleeve Smedley.
I do have a 2-button blazer with peak lapels, twin vent, gold buttons that I was married in, though that isn't quite the style I'm comfortable with. Plus it's a little heavier material and not as "summer appropriate".
You see a lot of the gold button blazers with the yachting set in Nantucket, and I get dragged to a lot of jacket-required events... My wife and I are friends with writer George Frazier's son and grandchidren and they're very much the blazer and pastels sort. So I like to sport a semblance of "the look" in such company. It blends me in but the details set me apart from the usual blue blooded Yankee types. I'm usually, in my opinion, more tastefully-dressed.
post #1924 of 2796
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Originally Posted by Botolph View Post


I have a navy linen jacket with dark horn buttons that I'll sometimes use as a blazer for dressier summer occasions. It's definitely English cut with hacking pockets, ticket pocket, higher stance gorge, etc. also a black super 100s wool blazer with muted pewter buttons I swapped for the gold ones. Pretty breathable and decent for summer evening occasions. Also have a super 100s worsted wool O'Connell's travel blazer. Has smoke MOP buttons, center vent, 3/2 roll, nat shoulders, undarted, etc. resists wrinkles, looks good with a white long sleeve Smedley.
I do have a 2-button blazer with peak lapels, twin vent, gold buttons that I was married in, though that isn't quite the style I'm comfortable with. Plus it's a little heavier material and not as "summer appropriate".
You see a lot of the gold button blazers with the yachting set in Nantucket, and I get dragged to a lot of jacket-required events... My wife and I are friends with writer George Frazier's son and grandchidren and they're very much the blazer and pastels sort. So I like to sport a semblance of "the look" in such company. It blends me in but the details set me apart from the usual blue blooded Yankee types. I'm usually, in my opinion, more tastefully-dressed.

Thinking about this maybe I will change the gold buttons on my navy wool blazer and keep it for cooler weather and look around for something in lighter material for the summer.

Plenty of choice in the shops here,the last 2 years blazers seem to have become quite popular,I suppose one reason is that they are quite versatile.

post #1925 of 2796
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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post

The other look that I have noticed in Italy (which I don't like) is a polo shirt with a v neck jumper worn over the shoulders,tight trousers,loafers with no socks,sunglasses on the top of head...this is usually worn by older blokes with long straggly hair who seem to think that they are great with women but seldom seem to be with a woman...

Haha, sounds like that Lino bloke from Classic Menswear on his day off. Some great Fred Perry stuff posted recently, none myself since the late 90s. Blazers of course have that school uniform look that put me off them for decades, a shame in both cases.
Edited by covskin - 5/15/16 at 11:44pm
post #1926 of 2796
A rather scruffy picture of some of my Fred Perrys



I actually have two of the black-with-white piping. At one time I had a rather rare one, made by FP but with the Guinness logo in place of the laurel wreath. heaven knows where that went.

Lack of colour is made up for by a couple of bright Ben Sherman polos I picked up at T K Maxx



I have nothing in green, but I think I'll rectify that this summer.
post #1927 of 2796
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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post

Blazers, I have 2 a black one and a navy one,they both have gold metal buttons,now I used to think that was ok but as I get older I am thinking that perhaps I look like a bloke from a Bowls club.
A bloke that I know wears blazers with plain buttons,his blazers don't look as heavy as mine (mine are wool) I don't know what material his are made of, Cotton maybe or linen and cotton perhaps.
So what are peoples thoughts for summer blazers ?,what material ? what kind of buttons ?..
I understand your dilemma regarding not wanting to look like an old geyser from the bowls club.
Unfortunately blazers do sometimes conjur images of golf club secretary's, pot bellied ex servicemen and the like.
I think the trick is, to keep it casual. Wear with jeans, avoid collar and ties.
If your feeling brave you might wish to combine a navy blaser with white trousers.
A trifle hello sailor maybe, but what the heck
post #1928 of 2796
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Originally Posted by Thin White Duke View Post

I have a load of polos, short and long sleeved. Mostly Lacoste, which I find are better quality and as I only got them on sale, better value than the few FPs I've acquired. I'm absolutely not interested in any charv or hoolie connotations which didn't really spread across the Atlantic anyway. For me they have the finest weave which works better in this hot climate, and in the great debate about whether or not to button the top button you can leave the top button on a (properly fitting) Lacoste open and the collar will still lie as if it was closed. Best of both worlds. The fit is a bit boxy for me but now you can get a slim fit, or a lot of mine I've had the sides taken in. (…)
 
 
 

I hear you about Lacoste quality, that i won't deny. I don't know if they are still only MIFrance (it explained for a long time the quality and price).

They've got tons of connotations here too, but are very basic at the same time.

I always preferred the fit of the (well made) FP, but as usual it's a matter of taste.

I'm a top button undone partisan. Except in winter, when i wear a FP under knitwear.

I never had long sleeved polos, not my thing. 

Apart FPs polos, i just own a couple of Smedleys. 

post #1929 of 2796
When I first started getting Lacoste polos they were made in France so my oldest few are from there but like many companies, more recently they outsourced manufacturing. I've just done a quick survey of four I have with me on my current trip and they all are labeled 'designed in France, made in Peru'! Hard to say if there's any difference in quality. I know that every season they rotate colours out and in, so while the quality of cotton and weaving SHOULD be constant, for anyone who complains that the colours wash out too easily these days it may just be a function of that particular dye that they used that season rather than a huge lapse in quality.
post #1930 of 2796
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Originally Posted by covskin View Post


Haha, sounds like that Lino bloke from Classic Menswear on his day off. Some great Fred Perry stuff posted recently, none myself since the late 90s. Blazers of course have that school uniform look that put me off them for decades, a shame in both cases.

We had to wear blazers to school in the early 70s ( in fact a school cap was on the uniform list 1969 when I started ),we used to wear black brogues / plain derby/loafers, navy or dark grey Sta Prest, plain pastel colour BD, and a mac or a crombie in the winter...no wonder we liked the suedehead look,the pupils were smarter than the teachers...mind you that wasn't hard.

post #1931 of 2796
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Suits seem to have been forgotten with polos and blazers now coming to the fore!

 

As @skinny legs says blazers do sometimes conjure up the wrong  image.  My solution (which has not been entirely successful) is not to have them look too much like a blazer.  My old Made in France Kenzo from 1995 is in a heavy linen with horn buttons and, apart from a bit of padding in the shoulders, is unconstructed.  My more recent bespoke woolen blazer from Roger Crawford is more formal but the smoked MOP buttons move it a little way from the conventional blazer style.

 

Moving on to polos again, I think @Clouseau and others are right to distinguish between the preferences of most originals and those that came a little later.  In my area of SE England mods were big on polos, especially the long sleeve ones often with a stripe or two.  I think we called them 'caravelles'.  I had my first FP in about 1966 - dark olive green with gold tips.

 

But by 1968 the polo had been supplanted by the BD pretty much.  For me, polos came back into my life around 1979 with the first steps into the Designer Decade.  Then I wore Lacoste, various Italian makes, Smedleys and, by the early 90s, Tommy Hilfiger and Polo RL.  That decade had more of an impact on me than the period from 1967 - 70 and so my polos now are mainly PRL, which here in the SE have retained a strong and loyal following (for some reason), one or two l/s Smedleys and the small FP collection.

 

Now, combining the two - polos and blazers.  For me that is very rarely attempted today.  IMO only the buttoned-up Smedley types really work in this setting and the casual polo in pique cotton cannot be dressed up successfully in that way (I can't think of any way that it can).  For me it is worn on its own or under a very casual jacket like a G9.  Just my two penn'orth.

 

The Eidos Napoli l/s polo as worn by our CM chums under jackets seems to have a complicated look that I don't 'get'.  This one is perhaps OK but I struggle with that look, which has something of the 70s about it - not in a good way!


Edited by Mr Knightley - 5/16/16 at 6:54am
post #1932 of 2796
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Originally Posted by Clouseau View Post
 

I hear you about Lacoste quality, that i won't deny. I don't know if they are still only MIFrance (it explained for a long time the quality and price).

They've got tons of connotations here too, but are very basic at the same time.

I always preferred the fit of the (well made) FP, but as usual it's a matter of taste.

I'm a top button undone partisan. Except in winter, when i wear a FP under knitwear.

I never had long sleeved polos, not my thing. 

Apart FPs polos, i just own a couple of Smedleys. 


The Lacoste that I bought in the 80s was a good fit and nice deep colour,last year I looked at Lacoste polos in the Lacoste shop in Swindon,the material seemed thinner and I wasn't tempted to buy one,in fact thinking about it today I cant remember the last time I saw a Lacoste polo being worn here.

 

One of the made in China FP that I bought last year is light blue and the piping is the same colour,the material is very good and the collar material seems thicker and stiffer than my other FPs,I think that one was a good buy,being a light colour it wont fade as much as the dark ones,I washed a navy made in China one in cold water the first wash and the colour ran out like ink.

post #1933 of 2796
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Originally Posted by Mr Knightley View Post
 

Suits seem to have been forgotten with polos and blazers now coming to the fore!

 

As @skinny legs says blazers do sometimes conjure up the wrong  image.  My solution (which has not been entirely successful) is not to have them look too much like a blazer.  My old Made in France Kenzo from 1995 is in a heavy linen with horn buttons and, apart from a bit of padding in the shoulders, is unconstructed.  My more recent bespoke woolen blazer from Roger Crawford is more formal but the smoked MOP buttons move it a little way from the conventional blazer style.

 

Moving on to polos again, I think @Clouseau and others are right to distinguish between the preferences of most originals and those that came a little later.  In my area of SE England mods were big on polos, especially the long sleeve ones often with a stripe or two.  I think we called them 'caravelles'.  I had my first FP in about 1966 - dark olive green with gold tips.

 

But by 1968 the polo had been supplanted by the BD pretty much.  For me, polos came back into my life around 1979 with the first steps into the Designer Decade.  Then I wore Lacoste, various Italian makes, Smedleys and, by the early 90s, Tommy Hilfiger and Polo RL.  That decade had more of an impact on me than the period from 1967 - 70 and so my polos now are mainly PRL, which here in the SE have retained a strong and loyal following (for some reason), one or two l/s Smedleys and the small FP collection.

 

Now, combining the two - polos and blazers.  For me that is very rarely attempted today.  IMO only the buttoned-up Smedley types really work in this setting and the casual polo in pique cotton cannot be dressed up successfully in that way (I can't think of any way that it can).  For me it is worn on its own or under a very casual jacket like a G9.  Just my two penn'orth.

 

The Eidos Napoli l/s polo as worn by our CM chums under jackets seems to have a complicated look that I don't 'get'.

That's me lowering the tone again Mr Knightley.

 

I think that you have it right about blazers, I want to get away from the yachtsman / ex serviceman / bowls player look, its partly the buttons partly the material and cut,I want something different to that but not going to far from 'the Look'.

 

Polos have been part of my  wardrobe since the early 70s mainly FP at first, I do like the long sleeve Hugo Boss polos they have the smooth pima cotton material as opposed to pique,I have seen a Ralph Lauren 3 button pima cotton polo that I like the look of,it has more of a shirt collar than say a FP collar.

I had a look at pictures of the Eidos Lupos LS polos but I am not that keen on them.

post #1934 of 2796
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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post
 

That's me lowering the tone again Mr Knightley.

 

 

Not at all, old boy!

 

I have long been a blazer fan and, as a young man, wore them without worrying about looking like my dad going off to play bowls.

 

But, as with some other items that I still wear today, I now feel the need to be somewhat cautious...

 

Lately I have spent time looking at the SW & D threads and, although many of the clothes are not for me, I appreciate the much cooler way that things are worn than on the CM boards (with some exceptions of course).  Many posters seem to have that attitude we often discuss here.

 

So, going back to blazers - yes, indeed they can still look great if they are the right blazer worn with the right stuff.

post #1935 of 2796

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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post

 

I think that skinhead / suedehead always had 2 components...streetwear,jeans,boots,Harrington etc and the smarter clothes,suit,tie etc for going out on a night time.

Certain items would cross over between streetwear and smart, Crombies, Sta Prest ?, Brogues, plain BD shirts.

Now though I seem to be wearing a polo shirt and Harrington in a lot more situations,with Paraboot Michaels and jeans as my 'streetwear' or with Brogues and wool trousers for a slightly 'smarter' (for want of a better word) look...obviously not in situations where a collar and tie should be worn.

 

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Well i tried to blow up this background of one of Ferguson's drawings. it is the exact illustration of the possible 'cross over' you describe.

 

The guy on the left has a vest under is crombie coat, a BD, sta-prest, and brogues. I can still wear this outfit, but the bowler is optional (and the trouser wouldn't be that short)...

 

The lad on the right is wearing a G9 and a FP polo, a sta-prest (than can be easily replaced by chinos, wool trousers, or jeans for a more streetwear look, like you say), and 'smooth' leather shoes. A look that will never go out of fashion and that follows Mr K's recommendation...

 

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Originally Posted by Mr Knightley View Post
 

Suits seem to have been forgotten with polos and blazers now coming to the fore!

 

 

Now, combining the two - polos and blazers.  For me that is very rarely attempted today.  IMO only the buttoned-up Smedley types really work in this setting and the casual polo in pique cotton cannot be dressed up successfully in that way (I can't think of any way that it can).  For me it is worn on its own or under a very casual jacket like a G9.  Just my two penn'orth.

 

The Eidos Napoli l/s polo as worn by our CM chums under jackets seems to have a complicated look that I don't 'get'.  This one is perhaps OK but I struggle with that look, which has something of the 70s about it - not in a good way!

I'm not that fan either of The Eidos lupo l/s polo, but it 'stands out of the crowd' a bit. First one button polo i see.

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