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Thanks for the thumbs up for my approach to dressing for the Ad-Lib Club.  I have to say that, for an occasion like that I would 'risk' more skinhead items together than I would for, say, going to a meeting!

 

My reaction to the picture of the broken politician was simply how dare he appropriate any of my items of clothing!  I suppose, on further reflection, I would agree with cov's comments.

 

Belts - yes a tricky subject. My history of belt wearing is something like this:

 

Mid 60s wearing a fairly wide belt with hipster trou. 

 

From around 1967 when I started having MTM suits and trousers I wore them 'self-supporting' with the side adjusters.  Jeans worn with braces or no support.

 

By the early 70s there was a return to belt loops on trousers and the wearing of belts with suits, odd trousers and jeans.  Something that has continued for me with the exception of bespoke trousers.

 

Like @cerneabbas I match my black shoes and belts.  Unlike cerne I don't worry too much about actually matching the browns.  As long as shoes and belt are from the same brown family  I am happy.  I do like to match the material and style to the rest of the outfit - that goes without saying.  A good crossover belt is a very dark brown plaited leather I find.

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I know what you mean about too many items. For me in that photo it is the buttondown collar rather than the tartan lining that needs to go (plus the jeans are a bit shit). Same principle differently expressed. As for Mr K he is dressed pretty much how I would for that function. And you won't be at all surprised at my approach to belts, I have 1 and it is black.

I agree on the jeans, they look pretty terrible, well worn but not really in a good way.  I also don't like the way he has zipped up the jacket just 'one third' of its length, looks very sloppy and just accentuates his beer gut.

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Belts..now I will admit to being a bit obsessive about matching belts to shoes.

I'm the same. It's a suedehead favorite, but more than that just a matter of classic elegance. 

I have 3 belt colors to match my shoes : black, brown, and oxblood.

You can match your (leather) watch strap too (if you wear a watch) with your shoes and belt. Something people do here.

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I'm the same. It's a suedehead favorite, but more than that just a matter of classic elegance. 
I have 3 belt colors to match my shoes : black, brown, and oxblood.
You can match your (leather) watch strap too (if you wear a watch) with your shoes and belt. Something people do here.


I do the same with the belts and shoes-- though not pedantically. Really, barring personal preference, the only color you SHOULD be sure to match is black. Black belt, shoes, watch strap(unless it's a metal bracelet style). Other than that and obviously clashing colors, you can (and I do) wear various shades of brown, tan, and reds(oxblood, burgundy, Alden #8, etc.).
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Or you can do the best you can with what you've got.
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Or you can do the best you can with what you've got.


Naturally. I suppose I should have worded it: 'try to avoid mixing colored leather accessories with black ones.' Of course it ain't the end of the world if you do-- but this is Style Forum after all.
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I do the same with the belts and shoes-- though not pedantically. Really, barring personal preference, the only color you SHOULD be sure to match is black. Black belt, shoes, watch strap(unless it's a metal bracelet style). Other than that and obviously clashing colors, you can (and I do) wear various shades of brown, tan, and reds(oxblood, burgundy, Alden #8, etc.).

I think to some extent it comes down to personal preference, which in turn is shaped by where you reside and perhaps when you grew up (sartorially).  Apart from the late 60s, the period that really shaped my current approach was the mid 80s when 'controlled clashing' was very much the vogue.  There is also an Englishness about not matching everything.

 

TBH then I don't like things to look too 'studied' and, with the exception of black shoes, I am not unduly bothered about matching belts, watchstraps, and so on.  For me the belt has to blend with the trousers as far as possible to avoid that unwanted cutting-you-in-half look.

 

I take the point made by @Clouseau about the suedehead connection, but for me the issue of belts is far more to do with taste and style than maintaining 'The Look' as such.

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Going off on a slight tangent (from belts) I had the great pleasure yesterday of having lunch in London with  @upr_crust and @Cleav

 

After lunch, upr and I did a quick bit of shopping in Jermyn Street and amongst other things talked about flamboyance and how it varies from country to country (as you know upr hails from NYC).  I just wondered how that may have affected the development of The Look in different parts of the world?

 

Anyway, check out WAYWRN for Cleav's photo report of the day.

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Naturally. I suppose I should have worded it: 'try to avoid mixing colored leather accessories with black ones.' Of course it ain't the end of the world if you do-- but this is Style Forum after all.

Oh indeed, point taken.

Anyone who knows me will have seen that I have a broad brown strap for my wristwatch. I have had it since about 1975. It is the only strap I have ever had/tried that is comfortable, and it's one small point on which I will gladly sacrifice style for comfort!
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I think to some extent it comes down to personal preference, which in turn is shaped by where you reside and perhaps when you grew up (sartorially).  Apart from the late 60s, the period that really shaped my current approach was the mid 80s when 'controlled clashing' was very much the vogue.  There is also an Englishness about not matching everything.

 

TBH then I don't like things to look too 'studied' and, with the exception of black shoes, I am not unduly bothered about matching belts, watchstraps, and so on.  For me the belt has to blend with the trousers as far as possible to avoid that unwanted cutting-you-in-half look.

 

I take the point made by @Clouseau about the suedehead connection, but for me the issue of belts is far more to do with taste and style than maintaining 'The Look' as such.

Agree with you about the personal preference, and agree with M-o-M with the 'do the best you can'. Attention to detail can be tricky sometimes and it's often better to get around the rules. I don't like 'things to look too studied' too. 

Real elegance must look 'effortless' i think. I dislike the overdressed style (that's why i don't like much threads on Styleforum TBH). 

 

Speaking of belts, in my case, being very tall, it's not bad if the belt doesn't blend too much with the clothes, so it 'breaks' the excessive verticality of the whole look.

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Speaking of belts, in my case, being very tall, it's not bad if the belt doesn't blend too much with the clothes, so it 'breaks' the excessive verticality of the whole look.

Wouldn't say you're tall, Gilles. It's just when we look you up-and-down we leave a chalk mark so when we come back from tea-break we can see where we left off. biggrin.gif
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I also don't like the way he has zipped up the jacket just 'one third' of its length, looks very sloppy and just accentuates his beer gut.

Good observation. Never thought about it but now you say it I am either zip fully open or zip 2/3rds up or zip fully up with collar up. Zip at 1/3rd up just bags out regardless of your shape. Different from buttons of course.
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On the subject of how things should be worn, I am interested in the subject of when and how to turn back the cuffs of a long sleeve shirt.

 

Back in the late 60s it was almost de rigueur when not wearing a jacket to turn back your cuffs by two turns like this.  Some favoured three here:

 

 

That style has stuck for many originals - see this pic of an early Mod to Suedehead meet up in York:

 

 

By the early 70s and the coming of the 'French cut' a single turn became fashionable:

 

 

In the 80s people like Versace were advocating sleeves rolled up to the elbows - or beyond:wow:

 

Does the Look demand a particular approach today?  My own, FWIW is to keep the sleeves down and buttoned unless it is unusually warm.  If I do turn them back it is usually just two turns.  Of course, Fred Astaire favoured a half turn and some of my RL shirts have a cuff button that is well set back to facilitate this while the cuff remains buttoned...

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After lunch, upr and I did a quick bit of shopping in Jermyn Street and amongst other things talked about flamboyance and how it varies from country to country (as you know upr hails from NYC).  I just wondered how that may have affected the development of The Look in different parts of the world?

Is flamboyance the opposite of restraint? I suppose you can have restrained flamboyance, a flamboyance framed by restraint such as a loud tie or a loud shirt but not both. Sunnier places and sunnier seasons always seem more flamboyant. Not sure I could ever be described as flamboyant though I think we did stick out against the background with bright red pullovers, polos and socks back then. Looking back, bleached jeans seem fairly flamboyant to me now.
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Well, Wednesday is charity shop day, and... oh, never mind! biggrin.gif
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