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Those Desert Vulcs are calling my name! What trainers Cerneabbas?
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Those Desert Vulcs are calling my name! What trainers Cerneabbas?


New Balance 576 in navy blue leather....as I said nothing to do with 'the Look' more like Casual meets old bloke in comfy shoes.

 

BTW my other recent purchase was an FP polo,I said that I wouldn't bother again but this was a very nice blue with navy and white piping,it looks good but unfortunately I got slim fit instead of regular !.

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I don't mind the slimness of FB, but they seem to short. Kinda' looking for some Adidas Forest Hills, myself.
Edited by cocostella - 10/16/15 at 3:05pm
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Originally Posted by cerneabbas View Post
 

I haven't posted lately, but I have been thinking about 'the Look', and I have made a few purchases.

 

...it made me think a lot about are their any 'cornerstones' of 'the Look' ? if not flat front trousers or BD shirts for instance, are there any items or styles that define 'the Look'.

 

Maybe in years to come I will come around to the idea of trousers with turn ups and pleats being part of 'the Look' but not at the moment.

cerneabbas, it is good to see you posting again!  I always enjoy your posts and the last one was especially thought-provoking.

 

I am not sure if the Look can be said to rely on specific items.  If we take the view that is implicit in The Soul Stylists and their concept of the ‘unbroken circle of style’ we can see the Look is more about attitude and principles than it is about certain items or even specific styles.  The principles are well documented here and elsewhere and they include a desire always to look cool and sharp, a certain subversiveness and secrecy and the need to move on when the public and the media begin to suss what is happening.  Of course, one chapter is entitled ‘The button down types’ …

 

Moving on to the specifics.  Are pleats and turn-ups really part of the Look?  I don’t know.  In the 1960s the mod and the early skinhead wore his trousers tight, narrow and short.  As the decade drew to a close they became a little fuller and higher in the rise so that by 1969 I was asking my tailor to include pleats (single) but no turn-up.  Turn-ups for me came with the 1980s Italian-influenced designer styles.

 

Here are two pictures both taken on holiday in Spain in late summer 1971.  My 1970-made pair of mohair trousers have single pleats and that front ticket pocket but my new gabardine pair (made just before I went on hols) have gone back to a flat front and a slight flare, in fact almost a 1965 look!!  It would not be until around 1985 that I would wear pleats again.

 

1970 - mohair with pleats and ticket pocket

 

1971 - gabardine with slit pockets, flat front, slight flare and lower rise

 

I believe my own style is now only partly influenced by what we have called the Look here and equally by a 1930s style re-interpreted by Mr Armani and co in the 80s.

 

Another thing these two pictures confirm is that reluctance to dress down.  One by the pool, probably off out somewhere and one on the prom but no posing pouch in sight:D


Edited by Mr Knightley - 10/19/15 at 3:13am
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My last post has also made me wonder about whether a reluctance to dress-down in any setting is a central plank of the Look?

 

Gill and Del Evans on holiday in the mid 60s looking pretty dressed up for fishing!

 

 

Perhaps that will be one of the enduring principles - because dressing is in itself for me really what the Look is about.

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New Balance 576 in navy blue leather....as I said nothing to do with 'the Look' more like Casual meets old bloke in comfy shoes.

 

BTW my other recent purchase was an FP polo,I said that I wouldn't bother again but this was a very nice blue with navy and white piping,it looks good but unfortunately I got slim fit instead of regular !.


Be OK under some knitwear!  Is it MiE?

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The Fred Perry made in England and the made in wherever feel very similar to me. In both types the body feels very thin compared to the collar. Seem to remember these with the body around 2/3rds of the feel of the collar.

Just thought what the feel of current polo shirts - Fred Perry, Lacoste, etc - reminds me of; a Tyvek 'paper' suit. What a load of crap.
Edited by covskin - 10/18/15 at 6:45am
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The Fred Perry made in England and the made in wherever feel very similar to me. In both types the body feels very thin compared to the collar. Seem to remember these with the body around 2/3rds of the feel of the collar.

Just thought what the feel of current polo shirts - Fred Perry, Lacoste, etc - reminds me of; a Tyvek 'paper' suit. What a load of crap.

I agreed generally with the above, I did however purchase the "J Crew" Lacoste released last year and it was built just like the good, older versions. I was quite pleased
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I entered this pic in this week's Friday Challenge over on CM, the theme was 'polo' and I got my usual solitary sympathy vote!
It may all be a bit 'identikit mod' for the purposes of this thread rather than an evolution of 'The Look', but may also be germane to the discussion of Fred Perrys. I think I got this one during a visit home in 2002 along with a maroon with light blue piping and black with grey piping, both of which have since been dumped as the dye washed out of them over time. The fit was very boxy so I've had it slimmed. I've always thought that the quality of material was so much better on Lacoste polos and they are cheaper during their twice yearly sales than FP.





Ray Ban / Sherrys of London / FP / Merc / Florsheim
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A boating blazer is one of my 'what if' guilty pleasures! Yep, think I mentioned somewhere that my 1997ish navy/white/white Fred Perry faded and bedraggled fairly quickly, so it isn't a completely new thing. And good to hear that pockets of the better stuff still survive. Hope Cerneabbas has better luck with his this time.
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In a rush of blood to the head I ended up acquiring four boating blazers over time. I was working towards my PhD and pictured myself wearing them to lecture on casual Fridays and if anyone thought it weird they could chalk it off to me being the eccentric professor from England (I live in America!).
My career took me in another direction and so they rarely see the light of day. The loudest I have is purple and black broad stripes with white narrow stripes. Make me an offer of you're interested! I also have green and black with a red line and navy with double sky blue stripes.
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TWD, that looks sharp. The target pin is redundant IMHO, as the outfit screams "I'm a mod!" loudly enough. 😁
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Cheers mate. My lapel pins are often bit of a bone of contention. I'm rarely seen without a union flag or St. George cross. I doubt I would bother back home cos like you say it's a bit of a statement of the obvious, but here in America it maybe offers a reference point to those who might have a vague idea of our thing!
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I think FP cloth varies enormously perhaps depending on the range and where the item is made.  I have a couple of Italian-made examples, one from 2008 is more akin to a Smedley fabric and the other bought this year is the typical pique cotton.  Not as thick as in the 60s but still has a nice handle.

 

The one that has the thickest feel and best make is a Made in Portugal collaboration with CdG Shirt from 2004.  Unusually it has a zip fastening too.

 

TWD - I share your pain about the Friday Challenges!  I once asked on here why we couldn't just celebrate people who are 'well-dressed' and, after a longish silence, someone said well, we are looking for people who dress in a certain style - or words to that effect...

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Originally Posted by Mr Knightley View Post
 

cerneabbas, it is good to see you posting again!  I always enjoy your posts and the last one was especially thought-provoking.

 

I am not sure if the Look can be said to rely on specific items.  If we take the view that is implicit in The Soul Stylists and their concept of the ‘unbroken circle of style’ we can see the Look is more about attitude and principles than it is about certain items or even specific styles.  The principles are well documented here and elsewhere and they include a desire always to look cool and sharp, a certain subversiveness and secrecy and the need to move on when the public and the media begin to suss what is happening.  Of course, one chapter is entitled ‘The button down types’ …

 

Moving on to the specifics.  Are pleats and turn-ups really part of the Look?  I don’t know.  In the 1960s the mod and the early skinhead wore his trousers tight, narrow and short.  As the decade drew to a close they became a little fuller and higher in the rise so that by 1969 I was asking my tailor to include pleats (single) but no turn-up.  Turn-ups for me came with the 1980s Italian-influenced designer styles.

 

Here are two pictures both taken on holiday in Spain in late summer 1971.  My 1970-made pair of mohair trousers have single pleats and that front ticket pocket but my new gabardine pair (made just before I went on hols) have gone back to a flat front and a slight flare, in fact almost a 1965 look!!  It would not be until around 1985 that I would wear pleats again.

 

1970 - mohair with pleats and ticket pocket

 

1971 - gabardine with slit pockets, flat front, slight flare and lower rise

 

I believe my own style is now only partly influenced by what we have called the Look here and equally by a 1930s style re-interpreted by Mr Armani and co in the 80s.

 

Another thing these two pictures confirm is that reluctance to dress down.  One by the pool, probably off out somewhere and one on the prom but no posing pouch in sight:D


A good explanation Mr Knightley,I will mull it over for a while and come back to it when I have thought it through.

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