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post #31 of 51
Off topic, but what's the point of 1% cashmere?
post #32 of 51

not sure I follow but it appears we are buying a suit without structure (no canvassing, etc.) now being passed off as some sartorial excellence only because Kiton makes them?  sounds like another version of hermes man on brand whoring in a different way.

post #33 of 51
correct, you do not follow
post #34 of 51
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Originally Posted by ultramantaro View Post
 

not sure I follow but it appears we are buying a suit without structure (no canvassing, etc.) now being passed off as some sartorial excellence only because Kiton makes them?  sounds like another version of hermes man on brand whoring in a different way.

 

I bought a Sartorio just to see what the fuss is all about since I liked the color. It seemed it me like Kiton just wanted to sell more stuff without having to lower their prices (Toyota - Scion deal). I wasn't expecting it to be anything great but hell the quality of the unstructured jacket I got is really top notch in fabric and seams. Their cut also happens to fit me perfect without any alteration which can't be said the same about Isaia. However, if you can't get them below $1k then might as well go bespoke.

post #35 of 51
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Off topic, but what's the point of 1% cashmere?


To make you feel better about paying the premium of course. I thought you knew that.

post #36 of 51
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How does Satorio compare to Stile Latino in terms of quality?

 

http://www.styleforum.net/t/346068/sartorio-vs-stile-latino

post #37 of 51
picking up my suit on the 31st; guy i work with is the rep for sartorio at the store and visits them in naples at least once a year. will see if i can get some details on construction for ya
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How does Satorio compare to Stile Latino in terms of quality?
post #38 of 51
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Originally Posted by Riva View Post

I bought a Sartorio just to see what the fuss is all about since I liked the color. It seemed it me like Kiton just wanted to sell more stuff without having to lower their prices (Toyota - Scion deal). I wasn't expecting it to be anything great but hell the quality of the unstructured jacket I got is really top notch in fabric and seams. Their cut also happens to fit me perfect without any alteration which can't be said the same about Isaia. However, if you can't get them below $1k then might as well go bespoke.

I know this was not your main point, but you can't ever really say, "for X price, you might as well go bespoke," because there are just too many variables. I seriously doubt you could find a bespoke tailor anywhere in the world capable of making a Neopolitan jacket to the standard of a Sartorio for under $1k. This very forum has thousands of pictures of guys in budget MTM or bespoke suits that aren't in the same ballpark as Foxx's suits in terms of fit, let alone quality. Many folks don't have access to world class tailors, which in any event will charge way more than the average cost of Sartorio. For a bespoke suit from the tailor in my small town, a standard make with fairly pedestrian cloth would start around $1k. Besides, if OTR fits someone perfectly, as the Sartorio does for you, why risk less than perfect results with bespoke? Just my $.02.
post #39 of 51
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Besides, if OTR fits someone perfectly, as the Sartorio does for you, why risk less than perfect results with bespoke? Just my $.02.


Why do perfect fit bespoke everytime with limited fabric choices? Classic styling has been the same for decades that it just gets boring. Yes I can get a badass bespoke suit for $1k but the good tailor I got is rather conservative. The big names release some pretty interesting fabrics for sportcoats and suits every year and I'm just a damn shopaholic. I've also used a completely different tailor for making pants only as this tailor can do up to date styling while keeping the high standards. There has to be a balance between style and fashion.

post #40 of 51
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Off topic, but what's the point of 1% cashmere?

I actually think a small % of cashmere adds a lot to cotton. Dunno if I've ever handled 1% cashmere but 5-6 is def enough to matter, at least to me.
post #41 of 51
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I actually think a small % of cashmere adds a lot to cotton. Dunno if I've ever handled 1% cashmere but 5-6 is def enough to matter, at least to me.

 

I've never noticed any difference with 1% cashmere stuff but 5% is definitely noticeable. Then again if Begg can make wool feels very close to cashmere and some cheap cashmere are actually very rough, there's no way of telling really.

post #42 of 51
Just came from Barneys and hot damn there are some amazing new sartorio and kiton pieces to check out...hard not to go overboard! Talked with my guy there, he does buying in Naples on kiton and sartorio. Sartorio now has access to kiton grade fabrics, but bumps price significantly if u go that route.

- sartorio jackets are 70% handwork, and according to my rep only way to get a garment from the store with more handwork you'd have to go kiton/ only brand that beats them for handwork. Buttonholes (lapel and front) are not hand stitched, but like the rest so much I don't care
- shoulders on MTM continue to be amazing. Gray suit looks stellar and fit to a t with practically no tailoring necessary on jacket and trousers

- sportcoat cloths for sartorio MTM were fucking spectacular
post #43 of 51
Why no pics?!
post #44 of 51
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- shoulders on MTM continue to be amazing.

- sportcoat cloths for sartorio MTM were fucking spectacular

 

Sartorio SC fabrics always have been the most unique and spectacular indeed. The shoulder is also among the top 3 for MTM IMO.

post #45 of 51
I was there yesterday. Sartorio struck me as very similar to Isaia in fit, though maybe with more conspicuous espaliliama camiciciacia on the shoulders.

I wasn't blown away by the fabrics on the ones they have in stock, but a few of the ones in the books were really eye-catching. The ones I liked the most did not appear to be of a hard wearing variety though (loose weaves), which makes me cautious.

About 2,500 - 4,000 depending on fabrics.
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