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Fit Details for Important Client Meeting

Poll Results: Thoughts, and opinions

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 66% (6)
    White Shirt
  • 0% (0)
    Grey Shirt
  • 22% (2)
    Blue Shirt
  • 11% (1)
    Wear the vest
  • 33% (3)
    Don't wear the vest
  • 11% (1)
    Red or Burgundy Tie (I have a selection)
  • 22% (2)
    Navy/yellow striped tie
  • 22% (2)
    You'll look weird/dumb wearing a suit; go less formal.
9 Total Votes  
post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 

I have a meeting with a client that I lost out on last year, and in the previous two years represented something in the ballpark of 25% or more of my income.  For context, I train his kids who are high level hockey players, so he usually sees me in sweats/underamour.  I'm working in an office setting in the financial district, part time, this month, so I'm wearing real clothes to work there.  He's a lawyer, and not originally from Vancouver, so not a hippie.  So he wears suits, and we're meeting for lunch on Friday.  Doesn't seem like he's a real style enthusiast when I've seen him in his work attire, but dresses well, classic/ordinary CBD.

 

I'm going to wear this suit:

Close up for Colour (Click to show)
Full Length for Fit (Crap lighting) (Click to show)
The Blue Shirt in Question (Click to show)
The Fedora, and grey shirt, in question. Better lighting full length (Click to show)

 

My questions are:

Wear the vest, or not? (Might it seem pompous?)

 

Light blue, white, or grey shirt? (Light blue is barrel sleeves, grey I have either, white is french cuffs)

 

Burgundy/red tie, or yellow/navy striped?

 

I'll be wearing a knee length black raincoat.  Black Homburg, mid grey Fedora, or no hat?  He may nt even see my outerwear, if I get to the restaurant first, of course.

post #2 of 25
-W/O vest
-No hat
-White shirt
-Better knot on tie
post #3 of 25
I would go with no tie to this lunch. You are seeing him in an informal setting, but are respecting what he does and the requirements for his attire. Personally, i like the grey shirt with no vest and would suggest a colourful pocket square as well.
post #4 of 25
I think the guy would be very impressed with seeing a guy who works with athletes for a living cleaning up so well. I say, all systems go.


I can't imagine wearing a business suit to a business meeting without a tie. It might work with a sportcoat and dress pants.
post #5 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDaniels View Post

I think the guy would be very impressed with seeing a guy who works with athletes for a living cleaning up so well. I say, all systems go.


I can't imagine wearing a business suit to a business meeting without a tie. It might work with a sportcoat and dress pants.


+1
You are trying to win business back..not just meeting for lunch.
post #6 of 25

The hat's off the table. The blue shirt is too dark for my taste. Wear a lighter shirt, and whatever tie appeals to you.

post #7 of 25

This is as much a sociological and psychological issue as a sartorial issue:  surely you should dress in whatever way makes *him* feel most comfortable. 

 

You're the one who knows him and the restaurant.  Granted, neither of those will tell you what color shirt to wear, but they should tell you whether to wear a tie and whether to wear a suit, no?

 

Cheers,

 

Ac


Edited by Academic2 - 3/6/14 at 2:11pm
post #8 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Academic2 View Post
 

This is as much a sociological and psychological issue as a sartorial issue:  surely you should dress in whatever way makes *him* feel most comfortable. 

 

You're the one who knows him and the restaurant.  Granted, neither of those will tell you what color shirt to wear, but they should tell you whether to wear a tie and whether to wear a suit, no?

 

Cheers,

 

Tim

 

Very good point.  The context calls for a suit, and tie, definitely.  The question of the vest, is really whether it will make me look like a dandy?  I would have to admit to being a dandy, but I'd rather have the work, than compliments on my clothing.

post #9 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by ImTheGroom View Post
 

 

[...] The question of the vest, is really whether it will make me look like a dandy? [...]

 

The fact that the question has occurred to you doesn't argue well for the vest.  Even if there's a sartorial case to be made in its favor, the psychological effect on you (you're worried about) would trump that.

 

Not everything that *can* be cast as a sartorial question should be.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

post #10 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Academic2 View Post
 

 

The fact that the question has occurred to you doesn't argue well for the vest.  Even if there's a sartorial case to be made in its favor, the psychological effect on you (you're worried about) would trump that.

 

Not everything that *can* be cast as a sartorial question should be.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

 

I love the vest, love wearing it, and feel completely comfortable in it.  My reservation is how it might be interpreted; perhaps I am overthinking this?

post #11 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by ImTheGroom View Post

I love the vest, love wearing it, and feel completely comfortable in it.  My reservation is how it might be interpreted; perhaps I am overthinking this?

Yep.

Scrap the vest.
post #12 of 25
So you worked for this guy and then you didn't work for him and now he wants to hire you again?

How casual, high end or formal is the restaurant? How do men usually dress in your field, not his?

If you are an IT guy and show top in a navy suit, white shirt, burgundy tie, it looks like you are trying too hard and showing how important the meeting is. If you do financial work a mid grey suit is fine. You are not a corporation, right?

Dress well but comfortable for who you are and what you do. If you over dress and are uncomfortable it works against you in the same way if you dress too casual. I think the point is to reconnect with a former client and forge a new relationship. Dress well enough but showing up to lunch at a middle of road restaurant in a blue suit and white shirt may not be needed. Understatement is sometimes better. Assess the situation and then relax.
post #13 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Despos View Post

So you worked for this guy and then you didn't work for him and now he wants to hire you again?

How casual, high end or formal is the restaurant? How do men usually dress in your field, not his?

If you are an IT guy and show top in a navy suit, white shirt, burgundy tie, it looks like you are trying too hard and showing how important the meeting is. If you do financial work a mid grey suit is fine. You are not a corporation, right?

Dress well but comfortable for who you are and what you do. If you over dress and are uncomfortable it works against you in the same way if you dress too casual. I think the point is to reconnect with a former client and forge a new relationship. Dress well enough but showing up to lunch at a middle of road restaurant in a blue suit and white shirt may not be needed. Understatement is sometimes better. Assess the situation and then relax.

Listen to the man.

I personally think the fedora and vest make the outfit look costumey. The fedora especially.
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post #14 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrd617 View Post


Listen to the man.

I personally think the fedora and vest make the outfit look costumey. The fedora especially. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Except the guy on the right is wearing a fleece quarter zip, t-shirt, and a pinstriped Trilby.

post #15 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by ImTheGroom View Post

Except the guy on the right is wearing a fleece quarter zip, t-shirt, and a pinstriped Trilby.

That's not my point. My point is that brimmed hats look ridiculous and out of place in this day and age. It doesn't matter if you have the finest three piece suit and the finest fedora from Optimo. You still look anachronistic.

If your main job is a hockey coach and you wear sweatshirts to work, you're going to look like you're wearing a costume in that getup in the nutcracker picture.

You're trying to hard to please this customer. Just wear a two piece and be done with it. No hat.
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