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Poll Results: Which color fresco do you prefer for a suit?

 
  • 57% (30)
    Brown
  • 42% (22)
    Tan
52 Total Votes  
post #91 of 122
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post

Thank you for that useless and off-point history lesson.

The issue is not whether brown is appropriate for suiting. It's that amongst summer-appropriate cloth, fresco is really second only to tropical wool in formality and a warm weather proxy for regular worsted suitings, so browns and tans are better left to linens and cottons. Afterall, regardless of history and specific contexts, brown and tan today are firmly and broadly known as more casual colors. To argue otherwise is akin to arguing that double-breasted suits are more casual than single-breasted for similarly accurate but ultimately irrelevant historical reasons.

In short, brown is fine for suitings, but brown suitings are more casual suitings. Hence, more casual types of cloth are more appropriate for brown suitings.

What about tan/cream wool flannels? Do you believe those are inherently incongruent? (I have no agenda - genuinely curious if you believe the same applies to woolen flannels)
Edited by francoamerican - 2/20/14 at 1:28pm
post #92 of 122
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Originally Posted by dieworkwear View Post

To my mind, fresco isn't really an alternative to linen. Cotton is, but not fresco. Where would you wear a linen suit, where you could otherwise wear a fresco suit?

I am having difficulty determining appropriate summer business casual for circumstances (wealth management client meetings) when chinos/linen trousers seem too casual and smooth worsted wool trousers seem too dressy.

Flannel seems to me the ultimate solution for fall winter - but I am at a loss for summer.

(I suppose a blue cotton suit would fit the bill it seems less useful for some reason - also lacks drape.)
post #93 of 122
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Originally Posted by francoamerican View Post

What about tan/cream wool flannels? Do you believe those are inherently incongruent? (I have no agenda - genuinely curious if you believe the same applies to woolen flannels)

I have no particular objection to tan/cream flannel. I wonder about the usefulnes though, since flannel is a cold weather cloth and tan or cream are generally warm weather colors.

The key distinction versus fresco is that flannel covers a broader gamut of formality. That's partially why it's such an awesome cloth.
post #94 of 122
After making up a brown fresco suit I have to agree with Mafoo. I find it neither fish nor foul and somewhat incongruous to wear in the summer given the reasons outlined above. Same goes for heavier weight fresco suits which I also have a few of and rarely wear as they were meant to be summer suits but wear too damn hot.
post #95 of 122
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Originally Posted by francoamerican View Post

I am having difficulty determining appropriate summer business casual for circumstances (wealth management client meetings) when chinos/linen trousers seem too casual and smooth worsted wool trousers seem too dressy.

Flannel seems to me the ultimate solution for fall winter - but I am at a loss for summer.

(I suppose a blue cotton suit would fit the bill it seems less useful for some reason - also lacks drape.)

I think its all about silk and linen blends. Being English I am used to wearing the same weight suits pretty much all year round but in NYC you just cant do it. I always underestimated how much clothing I needed to wear in the summer, really one or two purely summer suits just wont cut it for me. A silk and linen blend suit with unlined trousers and unlined jacket is really comfortable especially with Loro Piana cotton and linen blend shirts. The silk gives the linen great memory retention, so unless you are very stupid with it the cloth only ever creases softly.
post #96 of 122

I wish I had never commissioned my heavy fresco suit.  I hate wearing the damn thing just about as much as I enjoy wearing the lighter fresco suits

post #97 of 122
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post

I wish I had never commissioned my heavy fresco suit.  I hate wearing the damn thing just about as much as I enjoy wearing the lighter fresco suits

I dont even carry fresco, I don't like it myself.
post #98 of 122

Lightweight fresco is a perfect summer cloth for CBD environments - whether Minnis or Crispaire.   Wears cool outdoors and doesn't wrinkle much.

post #99 of 122
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post

Lightweight fresco is a perfect summer cloth for CBD environments - whether Minnis or Crispaire.   Wears cool outdoors and doesn't wrinkle much.

Just don't like the look of it personally.
post #100 of 122
Bruce Boyer looking great in what seems to be a tan flannel jacket

post #101 of 122
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Originally Posted by dieworkwear View Post

Bruce Boyer looking great in what seems to be a tan flannel jacket


He looks like a glass of eggnog.
post #102 of 122
It is a pretty sweet jacket.
post #103 of 122
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Originally Posted by TRINI View Post

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Originally Posted by dieworkwear View Post

Bruce Boyer looking great in what seems to be a tan flannel jacket


He looks like a glass of eggnog.

would look good with a nutmeg colored tie
post #104 of 122
Camel hair in odd lighting?
post #105 of 122
Delicious sundae right there. Vanilla gelato jacket, chocolate tie and blueberry square
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