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post #136 of 190
My only beef with MTM shirts are that the collar styles are always pretty blah.
post #137 of 190
Not to mention the last ones I ordered and had made as button downs, the collars were too stiff for my liking.
post #138 of 190
Well, they should be an easy fix.
post #139 of 190
Yes I was thinking to set them on fire smile.gif in all seriousness, how could I make them less stiff patrick?
post #140 of 190
Dunno, with wash and wearings they should soften up in time.
post #141 of 190
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Originally Posted by poorsod View Post

A well cut coat with the canvas and shaping are better at hiding flaws and emphasizing strengths. teacha.gif


No doubt you can do more with a coat but I think I'd stand by my original statement. A really well cut / tailored coat looks great. But it's the coat that looks good. Even the most casual observer understands that there's a bit of artifice there.

When a shirt is cut very well (and by that I'd say as slim as possible without even looking tight or constraining movement), the guy looks considerably more trim. But it's not as readily discernible that it's the shirt that's making the difference. I'd say that most of the time, you'd say the guy looks good and not even consider the shirt.
post #142 of 190

Is interesting to note that Italians at a certain level of money,prestige and often  social class ("old money" is said in USA) dress in this way.

Always,in every decade.

In few word there is a model back this style,and is the aristocratic model of 30s.

Is the Duke of Windsor (for elegant Italians a divinity),are the debonair,suave,aristocrats of 30s,are some kings of Hollywood (Astaire,Gable,FairbanksJr,John Barrymore ) are the fathers and the grandfathers (in United States is said "I do not want to dress like my father,in Italy peoples want dress like the fathers,because "daddy dressed the best").

In these social environments fashion not exist,is vulgar.

For exemple in 80s none dressed the Armani's baggy things:they were only for exports in foreign countries  or  for some ridicolous new rich in show buisness.

Another exemple:

This is Gianni Agnelli in 1961,the now so called "Mad Men era",the age of skinny ties and skinny lapels:

 

 

 

Here in 1962 with Ted Kennedy (note the ties and the lapels of the two):

 

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The Italian establishment wear bespoke and don't follow fashion trends; they do fashion trends,and ever around the same style with some little changes.

post #143 of 190
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The Italian establishment wear bespoke and don't follow fashion trends; they do fashion trends,and ever around the same style with some little changes.
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post #144 of 190

Well,Lapo is only the nut son of an important family

Anyway,when he is not dress as a  clown for the media,he falls in the "establishment rules of dress".

 

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post #145 of 190
For every one picture you find of Lapo looking good I can find two to three of him looking bad.

I'm just saying that whilst your opinions on "Establishment" figures wearing very conservative clothing is correct you're singling out probably one of the most conservative families in Italy for your examples. The demographic who make up the "Establishment" in Italy has changed incredibly since the days of Agnelli, and as such, your view that all "Establishment" figures perpetuate this ageless style is somewhat simplistic. One needs only to spend time in Milan or Rome to see that is a myth.
post #146 of 190
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Originally Posted by carpu65 View Post
 

This is Gianni Agnelli in 1961,the now so called "Mad Men era",the age of skinny ties and skinny lapels:

 

 

 

Here in 1962 with Ted Kennedy (note the ties and the lapels of the two):

 

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Love the DB Agnelli is wearing in the 1st picture.  The 2nd picture is a great comparison between the skinny tie trend of the 60s w/ the more traditional medium width tie (my preference).

post #147 of 190
Originally Posted by Ich_Dien View Post

For every one picture you find of Lapo looking good I can find two to three of him looking bad.

 
 

 

I'm sure,but which is the point? that Lapo is a idiot? yes,sure that it is.

But when he don't wear in fancy dress for the media his style is which ones of the pictures above: the Agnelli style

 

 

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I'm just saying that whilst your opinions on "Establishment" figures wearing very conservative clothing is correct you're singling out probably one of the most conservative families in Italy for your examples. The demographic who make up the "Establishment" in Italy has changed incredibly since the days of Agnelli, and as such, your view that all "Establishment" figures perpetuate this ageless style is somewhat simplistic. One needs only to spend time in Milan or Rome to see that is a myth.

 

 

"All" the establishment figures?

Well not...for exemple in politics is not more so.

In economy world at high level the trend is yet this,and in this thread we have good examples.

You have right,the demographic who make the establishment have changed; but if you go to see the who's who in some Cities you realize that  lot of names are the same from XVIII century or more.

Italy beneath the crust is very conservative.

 

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post #148 of 190

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post #149 of 190
Dress down Friday for Community service, failed now, then and ever...

post #150 of 190
Now this is better...



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