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post #91 of 1578
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Originally Posted by Violinist View Post
So here's a question about photography.

How would you assess the price of the work of a talented young up and comming photographer? I'm interested in fashion photography, and it seems that many of them who have just gotten a few big jobs are around $1000 for a print of maybe 5per edition. Is this fair?

How do I try and establish fair market value so that I know I'm not getting soaked, and if I think the guy is being a little adventurous, I can say something?

One approach is to develop relationships with a couple of gallery owners/dealers you trust and ask them their thoughts on the value of various pieces, and what they base their judgment on. As with clothes or many other things, you shouldn't just take their judgments at face value, but getting an informed opinion and then using it as a sort of benchmark for your own judgment can be very helpful.
post #92 of 1578
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post
One approach is to develop relationships with a couple of gallery owners/dealers you trust and ask them their thoughts on the value of various pieces, and what they base their judgment on. As with clothes or many other things, you shouldn't just take their judgments at face value, but getting an informed opinion and then using it as a sort of benchmark for your own judgment can be very helpful.


Aren't you hmmm, exchanging sexual favours and vows for the info you get though?
post #93 of 1578
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post
Aren't you hmmm, exchanging sexual favours and vows for the info you get though?

Yeah, so?
post #94 of 1578
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post
Yeah, so?

I'm just saying the bond of trust is imminently solid in your case and that Violonist might have to work at it a little bit more, especially with all the links between local galleries, we're talking about the art mafia here
post #95 of 1578
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post
I'm just saying the bond of trust is imminently solid in your case and that Violonist might have to work at it a little bit more, especially with all the links between local galleries, we're talking about the art maffia here

LOL, must have been a long day - I completely missed the reference, I thought you were using "you" generically and being snarky about my use of the word "relationships".

Yes, he'd have to work at it a bit (although I actually did know a little bit about art before meeting my wife -- clearly I at least knew enough to make convincing small talk with arty chicks). But all I'm saying is that he should treat talking to dealers like reading posts here. Some of the things you're going to encounter are total b.s. But if you continue to talk to people, certain things that you consistently hear from people who seem to know their shit will continue to make sense to you. Other things won't match up, or just won't resonate with you. It's just a way of familiarizing yourself with the process. If you're thinking about dropping $1,000 for a photograph, you'll have some sense of what others have gotten for the same kind of money, and at least some idea why some folks think a particular piece is or isn't worth that much. Ultimately you have to rely on your own judgment, but sometimes it's comforting to know that you haven't gone completely off the plantation.
post #96 of 1578
I love Goya. Wanted to put some prints up around the house but the wife finds them too disturbing.
post #97 of 1578
Goya I used to hate but have come to selectively appreciate. Nearly all of his paintings he did as commissions and for the court are pure shit. A few self portraits, even fewer portraits, some of the black paintings, and a smattering of still life works are what I've found to be to my taste, after looking really hard.

I do want to read Robert Hughes book on him, though.

Comparing Goya to Velazquez in terms of skill and quality of work is sure to make me angry and happens too often.
post #98 of 1578
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Originally Posted by Willsw View Post
Goya I used to hate but have come to selectively appreciate. Nearly all of his paintings he did as commissions and for the court are pure shit. A few self portraits, even fewer portraits, some of the black paintings, and a smattering of still life works are what I've found to be to my taste, after looking really hard.

I do want to read Robert Hughes book on him, though.

Comparing Goya to Velazquez in terms of skill and quality of work is sure to make me angry and happens too often.

I actually like Goya's court portraits. They are very scathing.
post #99 of 1578
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Originally Posted by LabelKing View Post
I actually like Goya's court portraits. They are very scathing.

According to critical historians. Though there may be evidence that I don't know about detailing his mindset while creating them, I think they are just mediocre portraits done of unattractive people, in a similar style of his cheesy scene pictures. It's not as if he was some great portraitist, he did his best work depicting war and suffering. His works of women and children wouldn't be out of place in a landscape by Grandma Moses.
post #100 of 1578
I enjoy pop art and the impressionists best. I own several cheap warhol prints from hot topic or somewhere.
post #101 of 1578
I'll just chuck a couple in here, but I'm not posting any images 'cause I'm way too lazy--and at work.

John Currin (sorry desginprof, I've loved his painting since the first I saw).
Banksy (attacks helicopters with bow-ties)
Swoon
Revs
John Singer Sargent
Jennifer O'Neill
kozyndan
Bob Carlos Clark (I think that's the right name)
Kristen Ulve
Gaudi
Gil Elvgren (and other pin-up artists of the 40s-60s)


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post #102 of 1578
I like this guy, although I don't think I'd put a print in the dining room:

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/critic/fe...048129,00.html

My sister's photography is highly collectible.

She shows nationally and recently had a full page photo in the New Yorker, as you can see here:

http://www.newyorker.com/fiction/fea..._fiction_doyle

More is on her site:

http://www.saschloff.com/
post #103 of 1578
I was on the fence about John Currin for awhile, having read more in magazines about him than seen his work. I did, however, see his (most?) recent show at the uptown Gagosian and liked it. The show was composed mainly of still life, pornography, and takes on cheesy portraits. The way it was put together, and I don't know if he had a hand in this as I'm not familiar with the process, helped it along; the pornography was ironically painted sensitively but wasn't tired or cliche, the cheesy portraits were amusing enough but also vehicles for him to showcase his skill (skill?!) with paint, and the still life acted, I suppose, as binder.

I appreciate Currin being successful, for whatever reasons he is, simply because he knows how to paint and there are far too few of those kind of painters, much less artists, around today.
post #104 of 1578
What's the name of that digital artist who did the road accident aftermath in slow mo somewhere in E. Europe?
post #105 of 1578
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Originally Posted by Willsw View Post
Goya I used to hate but have come to selectively appreciate. Nearly all of his paintings he did as commissions and for the court are pure shit. A few self portraits, even fewer portraits, some of the black paintings, and a smattering of still life works are what I've found to be to my taste, after looking really hard.

I do want to read Robert Hughes book on him, though.

Comparing Goya to Velazquez in terms of skill and quality of work is sure to make me angry and happens too often.

Do you like my Avatar? It's called "Casting a spell", private collection.
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