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I reread The Killing Joke about a month ago. The story is much less shocking now then when it first came out. The art is way better than I remember it.

Re the ^ post, the SJWs were very upset about the original's "misogyny" and the additions for the film were made to, in part, placate them. That didn't go so well, apparently.
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This artist's VHS box creations are amazing. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

I reread The Killing Joke about a month ago. The story is much less shocking now then when it first came out. The art is way better than I remember it.

Re the ^ post, the SJWs were very upset about the original's "misogyny" and the additions for the film were made to, in part, placate them. That didn't go so well, apparently.


The Killing Joke originally came out in 1988 and is generally remembered as a classic Batman story. I don't believe it generated much controversy at the time, but we didn't have the echo-chamber of the internet as we do now.

The only real controversy I have been seeing in regards to the animated movie adaption come from the additional scenes they added to make the story longer.
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Namely having Batgirl sleep with Batman. Considering she started training with him as a young teenage and had on and off again relationships with the original Robin, Dick Grayson, it's seen by many long time readers as more then a little icky. It also does little justice to her character and in some ways weakens her when she is rejected by Batman shortly before being shot by the Joker. I'm not sure how anyone could feel these changes to the story would placate anything and it should have been obvious from the planning stages that it wouldn't go over well with a large portion of the fanbase.

Here's a good (spoiler filled) write up on it that I feels does a fair job of explaining why the changes to the story have so many fans upset. http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/07/23/making-batgirl-less-likeable-for-the-killing-joke/
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Originally Posted by Jr Mouse View Post

The Killing Joke originally came out in 1988 and is generally remembered as a classic Batman story. I don't believe it generated much controversy at the time, but we didn't have the echo-chamber of the internet as we do now.

The only real controversy I have been seeing in regards to the animated movie adaption come from the additional scenes they added to make the story longer.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Namely having Batgirl sleep with Batman. Considering she started training with him as a young teenage and had on and off again relationships with the original Robin, Dick Grayson, it's seen by many long time readers as more then a little icky. It also does little justice to her character and in some ways weakens her when she is rejected by Batman shortly before being shot by the Joker. I'm not sure how anyone could feel these changes to the story would placate anything and it should have been obvious from the planning stages that it wouldn't go over well with a large portion of the fanbase.

Here's a good (spoiler filled) write up on it that I feels does a fair job of explaining why the changes to the story have so many fans upset. http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/07/23/making-batgirl-less-likeable-for-the-killing-joke/
It generated a lot of controversy at the time. Especially with regard to Barbara Gordon. Both paralyzing her and using the abuse of her to torture her father. There was nothing like that in comics then and certainly not from a major house. Much has happened since. Were you even alive when it came out?
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

It generated a lot of controversy at the time. Especially with regard to Barbara Gordon. Both paralyzing her and using the abuse of her to torture her father. There was nothing like that in comics then and certainly not from a major house. Much has happened since. Were you even alive when it came out?


I was 11 when the book came out, but didn't really get into DC comics till years later since I started out as a Marvel fan. Having said this from what I have seen it has become more controversial in recent years then it originally was even if you are correct that it was a shocking thing to see come from DC. Keep in mind the original story was meant to be a one off and not part of continuity. It wasn't until DC decided they wanted to move forward with Barbra being paralyzed so they could develop her into Oracle that it was considered part of continuity.

Honestly having Barbra become Oracle was the best thing that could have happened to her. She proved to be a far more interesting, strong and important character to the DC universe as such then she ever was as Batgirl. I've never been happy with DC's decision to have her be able to walk again in Nu52 and it's sad they missed the opportunity with Rebirth to return her to the character she was.
Edited by Jr Mouse - 7/28/16 at 6:55am
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post #3427 of 3826
That superman costume looks really bad.
post #3428 of 3826
And that superman looks like a twerp. Just put in Cavill already. Even an aged Welling looks better.
post #3429 of 3826
I don't mind the costume that much except for the boots. They look horrible. Maybe it's the actor's pose, but the person playing Superman looks terrible in that picture.
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Originally Posted by origenesprit View Post

That superman costume looks really bad.

I actually like it other then the belt which just doesn't look right to my eyes.
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Originally Posted by El Argentino View Post

And that superman looks like a twerp. Just put in Cavill already. Even an aged Welling looks better.

He looks younger then I expected. I'm guessing that's the look that they are going for with this version of the hero.
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Originally Posted by Texasmade View Post

I don't mind the costume that much except for the boots. They look horrible. Maybe it's the actor's pose, but the person playing Superman looks terrible in that picture.

Yeah, the boots could use a little work. I agree with you there.
post #3432 of 3826
He looks like a frat bro wearing a Superman costume to a Halloween party.
post #3433 of 3826
I do wish they had gone with the classic red trunks, but that was too much to hope for.

You guys are being too hard on it. He looks fine.
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post #3435 of 3826

 you complaining his grandma got hot?

 

 

 

Those VHS redux's posted above are pretty cool

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