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post #361 of 373
I got a pair of Nick's a few weeks ago. I guess they're Roberts in natural CXL (lined). Here they are next to my White's BH. I wish I had either gone for a cuban heel or a lowered block heel.

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post #362 of 373
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Originally Posted by leipergrey View Post

I got a pair of Nick's a few weeks ago. I guess they're Roberts in natural CXL (lined). Here they are next to my White's BH. I wish I had either gone for a cuban heel or a lowered block heel.

 

Man, they both look great!  That's a lot of boot in that pic..  I agree with you that the heel seems a bit too much as is on the Nick's, but otherwise the proportions are great and construction seems right on.  And I like the slightly rounder toe on the Nick's.

post #363 of 373
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Originally Posted by linafelt View Post

Man, they both look great!  That's a lot of boot in that pic..  I agree with you that the heel seems a bit too much as is on the Nick's, but otherwise the proportions are great and construction seems right on.  And I like the slightly rounder toe on the Nick's.
Yeah, the rounded toe is spot on. But when I look at that heel on the Nick's all I think is how that lift has got to feel good on the legs back and feet. I did the lowered heel thing for esthetics at first but quickly realized there is a reason they do a higher heel

James
post #364 of 373
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Originally Posted by leipergrey View Post

I got a pair of Nick's a few weeks ago. I guess they're Roberts in natural CXL (lined). Here they are next to my White's BH. I wish I had either gone for a cuban heel or a lowered block heel.

TYvu9DVl.jpg

lrp0Homl.jpg

DbYUwlpl.jpg

A preface; I've been a lurker on SF for quite some time now. Of late most of that time is spent on the boot side of things (read: White's/Nicks/Viberg), but this is the post that drew me out of the shadows so to speak. ;)

 

Those White's are gorgeous, and exactly what I've been in search of for awhile now. I'd love to get the full details on the make-up. I'm guessing Bounty Hunter on the Semi-dress last, 8 eyelets antique, double-stitched, single midsole, lined, mini vibram outsole, pull tabs, natural edge, 1/4 lowered block heel... I can't quite figure out what the leather is though. It seems too dark to me to be CXL, but too light to be brown dress. I'm thinking it might be the british tan? If it is, I think this is the best example I've seen yet of how the british tan can age :drool: Also, are those BHs soft toe or single-celastic? I can't decide, they seem to have some definite structure, but I've always associated single-celastic toes with a more prominent/higher toe box.

 

Anyway, awesome boots dude. I've seen a ton of different makeups, but there's something about yours that just calls to me. White's work in mysterious ways :rolleyes:

post #365 of 373
I want to see your roughouts!
post #366 of 373

@Modern Man Thanks! This is the make-up I gave Kyle:

 

Model: Bounty Hunter
Size: 9E
Toe vamp leather: distressed smooth
Counter leather: distressed smooth
Upper (shaft) leather: distressed smooth
Celastic toe box: single
Height: 6"
Midsole: single
Heel base: lowered block heel

Last: semi dress (bounty hunter)
Top: cut top
Hardware: all (9) antique eyes
Pull loops: leather pull loops - distressed smooth
Lace design: plain toe
Sole: vibram 430 mini vib
Sole trim: close trim
Edge: natural
Leather lining: no thanks

Logo: no thanks
Laces: leather laces

 

The distressed smooth leather was lighter but it turned that color after some conditioning with Lexol.

post #367 of 373

Wow, that's distressed smooth? That's a really great color it's taken on, I had thought it didn't age as well as CXL, but that has me reconsidering a bit.

 

I'm curious to know how you think your Nick's compare to White's in terms of construction and attention to detail? 

post #368 of 373
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Wow, that's distressed smooth? That's a really great color it's taken on, I had thought it didn't age as well as CXL, but that has me reconsidering a bit.

I'm curious to know how you think your Nick's compare to White's in terms of construction and attention to detail? 

I spoke to Gary at Nicks about the same questions.

Distressed smooth is the oil tanned leather. Its tougher, usually 7-8oz. CXL is heavily oiled dress leather that scuffs easily usually weighing in at 4-5oz in this grade of boot featuring a leather glove liner.

Hot Shot vs Smoke Jumper. All this information is from Gary and forum combing.

Nicks:
More arch
Two rows of mckay lock stitching instead of one and a rolled welt. This has no effect on durability. Its just a cut corner.
8oz heel counter vs 7oz
Thicker vamp stitching (note that it can cause wrinkling)
Thicker leather slip sole
Thicker leather shank
Thicker leather mid sole (you see quite a few double midsoles with Whites being only slightly thicker"
Reinforced backstay

Objectively the heavier leather makes a heavier boot that is tougher to break in. Ive broken in my boots after two weeks. I also weigh 220lbs and work on my feet, but some people take a month or more.
post #369 of 373
Thanks for the info, Chris- very informative. I had gotten the impression that the general consensus is that Nick's has a bit more attention to detail and makes an overall more solid boot than White's, albeit just slightly. It's nice to see some actual qualitative data to back that up.

Also, am I to correctly understand that you spoke to Gary at Nick's about distressed leather? The only reason I ask is because I was under the impression (perhaps mistakenly) that the distressed smooth/roughout leathers available to White's were exclusively found in their boots. I had assumed they were a stock leather along the lines of their dress leathers. Is it that Nick's has their own version of the distressed leathers so to speak, or that they get them from a mutual source? Pardon me if you don't have the answers to that particular line of questioning, it's just of some interest to me whether Nick's has access to the distressed leathers. A pair of Nick's with a heavier, tougher natural-ish leather than Natural CXL sounds extremely appealing to me.
Edited by Modern Man - 11/26/14 at 4:15pm
post #370 of 373
Also worth noting that Chris is referreing to the 'Contender' line with McKay stitching; You can get welted versions of many Nicks models as well for more money and more custom fitting.
post #371 of 373
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Thanks for the info, Chris- very informative. I had gotten the impression that the general consensus is that Nick's has a bit more attention to detail and makes an overall more solid boot than White's, albeit just slightly. It's nice to see some actual qualitative data to back that up.

Also, am I to correctly understand that you spoke to Gary at Nick's about distressed leather? The only reason I ask is because I was under the impression (perhaps mistakenly) that the distressed smooth/roughout leathers available to White's were exclusively found in their boots. I had assumed they were a stock leather along the lines of their dress leathers. Is it that Nick's has their own version of the distressed leathers so to speak, or that they get them from a mutual source? Pardon me if you don't have the answers to that particular line of questioning, it's just of some interest to me whether Nick's has access to the distressed leathers. A pair of Nick's with a heavier, tougher natural-ish leather than Natural CXL sounds extremely appealing to me.

 

I went with Nicks for the customer service. I've read a lot about people being "shit out of luck" when something went wrong on their boots. I noticed unreplied-to comments on their Facebook page. I also find it silly that I have to contact White's for a price. Nick's website was better, they return my e-mails right away. And sure, their boots are perhaps made better as well.

 

Absolutely, and I mean absolutely get the distressed smooth IF they have it. It's White's best leather IMO. It has the look of natural CXL, with the toughness and smell of the 7-8oz oil-tanned leather.

 

I don't hate CXL, it's just my Alden Indy 405 in brown CXL after two years have touching eyelets. I ended up actually having to walk and work on my feet and in one summer of warehouse work, I noticed the boots don't lace up as tight as they used to. I don't think a recraft could fix that. So I looked for a solution. That is actually when I found Wranglerstar's Youtube channel, then Nick's, then Reddit with Cathpath, then I bought some, and I think I owe it to spread the word about how satisfied I am with my Ranger boots. 

 

Also it is extremely hard to search for Nick's, Wesco, or White's without running into the foot fetishists on youtube. Especially with the Wesco Jobmaster search on youtube.. gross.

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Originally Posted by ahonobaka View Post

Also worth noting that Chris is referreing to the 'Contender' line with McKay stitching; You can get welted versions of many Nicks models as well for more money and more custom fitting.

 

Correct. I have Contenders, and I have Contenders on the way. The "Welted" line is through the Hot Shot and on request for their other boots. I was told I wouldn't actually feel the difference and it wasn't any different in durability, it just saved time.

post #372 of 373
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My Vermilyea Pelle x Nick's Boots in waxed flesh (CXL) arrived yesterday, and they are flippin' amazing. I'm in love.

Full details:

  • waxed Flesh CXL
  • 8" height
  • cut top
  • antique hooks and eyes
  • HNW last (similar to Robert last but a bit less arch support...yet it's still very much there, just not as much as my White's BHs)
  • cap toe (perfect proportions, if I do say so myself. I love White's but their cap toes vary way too much for me to risk it on a $400+ boot)
  • celastic toe
  • standard trim
  • no pull loop
  • Vibram 430 half sole (check the photos...it's amazing that he did this for me, as it allows me to preserve the solid leather stack heel and still have my favorite sole on the boot. Dustin is the man.)
  • Quabag heel
  • Light brown edges

Wait time was somewhere around 18 weeks, but it was worth every minute of it.

 

Album when new.

 

Then I wore them out for an afternoon of hiking in the snow and and wandering through the woods to cut down our (intentionally) charlie brown christmas tree yesterday. The icy layer on top of the snow certainly helped show me just how awesome waxed flesh can be with a bit of wear and tear. This is just one day of wear, so I can't wait to see what they'll look like in a year or two.

 

Album after one day of wear in the snow.

 

To say that I am pleased with these boot would be an understatement.

 

 

post #373 of 373
Those are sweet. Congrats!
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