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post #196 of 373
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Originally Posted by Neognosis View Post

Conditioning once a week?

What
The
Heck?


Disclaimer: You can cover your boots in chocolate sauce daily, it's your money and your possession.


However... Come on, that's downright ridiculous.
Surely, this leather doesn't require conditioning more than 2x a year, even with daily work use.
It must be a complete shit tannage if it requires conditioning even once monthly with daily use.

Wearing boots in water and mud and the constant flexing is one of the fastest ways to remove oils. You need to condition boots when they require it, not just after a specified length of time. I can't say if the OP is over-conditioning or not, but there are certainly cases where a light weekly conditioning would be appropriate.
post #197 of 373
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Originally Posted by ZenSilk View Post
 

Hey everyone, 

 

I just wanted to drop by to say that I am extremely pleasantly surprised by the quality of the "Mexcel" leather that Nick's uses for the boots I have. I have owned four pairs of Chromexcel shoes and boots as well as belts and bracelets and a wallet. The "Mexcel" has been standing up to everyday use just fantastically. I have been using these boots for everything from yardwork to replacing sprinkler heads, and they have seen quite a but of toe bending, water, mud, sticks, rocks and dog paws. With the more abrasive stuff on Chromexcel I really have a hard time getting it out, and the creases seem to always appear from the toe bending fairly quickly. 

 

The Mexcel still has yet to show noticeable creasing and width stretch. This leather is hearty as all hell. These boots are very much still in the break-in period even after about a month of pretty hard everyday wear and use/abuse. The only show of wear is a scuff on the side of the toe from a very rough log I was cutting, this scuff was terrible, but after some cleaning/conditioning it has dulled; still visible, but not glaring. 

 

TL;DR - Mexcel is tough as nails.

 

Disclaimer: I wipe down these boots after each day of use with warm water/cloth. Conditioning once a week, generally. 

 

I'll try to get pics on an imgur album soon. 

Thanks for chiming in.  I must admit, the sample of Mexcel that I got from Nick's was *really* impressive.  The natural had fantastic pull up qualities, and the burgundy was beautiful...if really dark.

 

Now hurry up and get on those photos!  I'd love to see.

post #198 of 373

Think I’ll stick around here now…

post #199 of 373

I emailed Nicks boots a few times and Gary at Nicks suggested I call. So I called Gary yesterday and spent 30 mins on the phone talking about different boot options. Here are some nuggets I gathered that I thought I would share.

 

For fit, you send Nicks the fitting guide and they will send you a pair of boots in the appropriate size for that last (of course, I assume you pay for the try-on boots). You wear the boots for about 10 minutes around the house then call Keith the fit expert at Nicks. Keith will walk you through exactly how the boots should fit/feel. Gary said that a Nicks boot should start out like a firm handshake fit at ball of the foot and through instep. There should be a full thumb at the end of the boot. An initial fit like this and they will will break in perfectly. If they are very easy to get into and very comfy at initial try on then they will be a sloppy loose fit in 3 months. Send back the try-on boots, then Nicks will begin building your custom boot.

The Roberts boot has a dress-type anaflex leather. I want a rough-out, but that isn't possible with the Roberts dress leather as Gary said the anaflex RO gets fuzzy and generally looks like s!*t. I asked if they can do a Roberts in the heavier oil-tanned leather and Gary said that makes it a Ranger model boot. Gary also mentioned that the Roberts is lighter than the Ranger. If you make a 6" Ranger out of the oil-tanned leather, it will be about 1-lb heavier than a 6" Roberts made of the lighter anaflex leather. The new Nicks site has some good pics of the types of leather, including RO and exotics. Go to the FAQ and click on Leathers.

I was initially interested in the Roberts boot (some parts of the site refer to this also as a weekender boot). The Roberts has a roundish toe (#3 in the Nicks FAQ). But after talking with Gary, I am leaning toward a 6" Ranger. Ranger is built on same last as the Roberts and will have the same round-ish toe. Gary suggested getting a padded collar top (a $30 additional charge) because a pull-loop on a 6" boot gets hung up on pants pretty often when standing up after sitting or crossing your legs. I'm not sure of the durability of the padded top and I also don´t like the look. Gary also suggested a single celastic toe ($20 additional charge).

For my needs/wants, this is what I'm thinking of:
6" Ranger, Hot shot style (rough out toe and heel, with smooth upper), cut-top w/ pull-loop, single celastic toe, Natural edging, Vibram 430 mini-lug sole, Cap Toe (or maybe LTT).


A few miscellaneous tidbits...Gary said Nicks target is 8-10 week turnaround. They are running 12-14 weeks now. Not a deal-breaker for me.


Gary suggested finding a local place to take the boots for rubber heel recap only, without touching the leather heel base. Then send to Nicks only when needing a full resole. When sending in to Nicks for resole, mention that heel caps have been redone prior to resole. Nicks can then adjust the heel.
 

For maintenance of RO leather, Gary suggested 30-grit sand paper or suede brush. Rubbing it on the RO will make it nice. I've never had RO boots, so I can't comment on how well this works. Also, if you need a highly polished boot, get the black strap leather.


When comparing the pictures of the Roberts and Ranger on the web, it looks like the Roberts laces come lower than the Ranger. I asked Gary about that, and he said the laces go down the same on both boots. The difference is due to the size of the boots in the picture and maybe just the picture itself.


I will try to post pics and feedback of the try-on pair as well as the finished product.

post #200 of 373
Running 12-14 weeks ... Lol good luck with that. They told me flat out 12 weeks. Took 20 weeks. And no apology, no discount, no free conditioner, no nothing. I've talked to 4 people so far that got them, no one under
19-20 weeks.
post #201 of 373
Oh and at 19 weeks I was fed up and called to get my money back they said I can't the boots had been started. If I could go back I would have demanded my money back. Yes the boots are great but you can't treat customers like that. F nicks
post #202 of 373
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Midguardian View Post
 

I emailed Nicks boots a few times and Gary at Nicks suggested I call. So I called Gary yesterday and spent 30 mins on the phone talking about different boot options. Here are some nuggets I gathered that I thought I would share.

 

For fit, you send Nicks the fitting guide and they will send you a pair of boots in the appropriate size for that last (of course, I assume you pay for the try-on boots). You wear the boots for about 10 minutes around the house then call Keith the fit expert at Nicks. Keith will walk you through exactly how the boots should fit/feel. Gary said that a Nicks boot should start out like a firm handshake fit at ball of the foot and through instep. There should be a full thumb at the end of the boot. An initial fit like this and they will will break in perfectly. If they are very easy to get into and very comfy at initial try on then they will be a sloppy loose fit in 3 months. Send back the try-on boots, then Nicks will begin building your custom boot.

The Roberts boot has a dress-type anaflex leather. I want a rough-out, but that isn't possible with the Roberts dress leather as Gary said the anaflex RO gets fuzzy and generally looks like s!*t. I asked if they can do a Roberts in the heavier oil-tanned leather and Gary said that makes it a Ranger model boot. Gary also mentioned that the Roberts is lighter than the Ranger. If you make a 6" Ranger out of the oil-tanned leather, it will be about 1-lb heavier than a 6" Roberts made of the lighter anaflex leather. The new Nicks site has some good pics of the types of leather, including RO and exotics. Go to the FAQ and click on Leathers.

I was initially interested in the Roberts boot (some parts of the site refer to this also as a weekender boot). The Roberts has a roundish toe (#3 in the Nicks FAQ). But after talking with Gary, I am leaning toward a 6" Ranger. Ranger is built on same last as the Roberts and will have the same round-ish toe. Gary suggested getting a padded collar top (a $30 additional charge) because a pull-loop on a 6" boot gets hung up on pants pretty often when standing up after sitting or crossing your legs. I'm not sure of the durability of the padded top and I also don´t like the look. Gary also suggested a single celastic toe ($20 additional charge).

For my needs/wants, this is what I'm thinking of:
6" Ranger, Hot shot style (rough out toe and heel, with smooth upper), cut-top w/ pull-loop, single celastic toe, Natural edging, Vibram 430 mini-lug sole, Cap Toe (or maybe LTT).


A few miscellaneous tidbits...Gary said Nicks target is 8-10 week turnaround. They are running 12-14 weeks now. Not a deal-breaker for me.


Gary suggested finding a local place to take the boots for rubber heel recap only, without touching the leather heel base. Then send to Nicks only when needing a full resole. When sending in to Nicks for resole, mention that heel caps have been redone prior to resole. Nicks can then adjust the heel.
 

For maintenance of RO leather, Gary suggested 30-grit sand paper or suede brush. Rubbing it on the RO will make it nice. I've never had RO boots, so I can't comment on how well this works. Also, if you need a highly polished boot, get the black strap leather.


When comparing the pictures of the Roberts and Ranger on the web, it looks like the Roberts laces come lower than the Ranger. I asked Gary about that, and he said the laces go down the same on both boots. The difference is due to the size of the boots in the picture and maybe just the picture itself.


I will try to post pics and feedback of the try-on pair as well as the finished product.

Fantastic info.  Thanks for sharing.

post #203 of 373
Thread Starter 

While a long wait is frustrating, when they deliver a top notch product that is made individually for each customer...I find it to be worth the wait.

 

Here's mine after getting very minimal wear so far this summer.  While I'm not ready for winter, I am ready for boot weather.  I want to see what these guys look like once really beaten up.

 

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post #204 of 373
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Originally Posted by cathpah View Post

While a long wait is frustrating, when they deliver a top notch product that is made individually for each customer...I find it to be worth the wait.

Here's mine after getting very minimal wear so far this summer.  While I'm not ready for winter, I am ready for boot weather.  I want to see what these guys look like once really beaten up.

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What leather is that?
post #205 of 373
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by andy b. View Post


What leather is that?

That's the Dark Olive Chromexcel that I got through Vermilyea Pelle, Here.  (mine were customized to be 6" and have a matching tongue).

post #206 of 373
Thread Starter 

Better photos with 2 pairs of White's Bounty Hunters as reference.

 

 

post #207 of 373
Thread Starter 

Does anyone have any good images of Nick's cap toes?  I love a good cap toe, but White's' cap toes so often looked "off" in one way or another, so I was hesitant to order one through them.  I'd love to see how Nick's does theirs.

post #208 of 373
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Originally Posted by cathpah View Post
 

Does anyone have any good images of Nick's cap toes?  I love a good cap toe, but White's' cap toes so often looked "off" in one way or another, so I was hesitant to order one through them.  I'd love to see how Nick's does theirs.


Here's an album.

Also, I skimmed / read through most of this thread, and while I caught a few mentions of different toe numbers referring to the last shapes, I couldn't find a lot of info. Can anyone give a little explanation of Nick's lasts and toe shape numbers?

Edit: I found the toe shapes in the FAQ. I'm still wondering if the toe shapes each have a different corresponding heel height. Often if you go with a last with a narrower toe, the heel tends to be higher (eg a Packer boot). I've very curious about the #2 toe - does anyone have images? Cathpah - are yours a #3?


Edited by NNNN - 7/27/14 at 10:12pm
post #209 of 373
Would you guys go lined or unlined for a casual boot in natural cxl?
post #210 of 373
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by NNNN View Post
 


Here's an album.

Also, I skimmed / read through most of this thread, and while I caught a few mentions of different toe numbers referring to the last shapes, I couldn't find a lot of info. Can anyone give a little explanation of Nick's lasts and toe shape numbers?

Edit: I found the toe shapes in the FAQ. I'm still wondering if the toe shapes each have a different corresponding heel height. Often if you go with a last with a narrower toe, the heel tends to be higher (eg a Packer boot). I've very curious about the #2 toe - does anyone have images? Cathpah - are yours a #3?

Unfortunately, I just don't know.  Mine were built on the HNW last, but that's about all I know.

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