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post #76 of 88
Crosspost. These were a little controversial when I received them several years back. Russian calf slip ons by Cleverley. I've had lots of use out of these. Still v. comfortable and a great casual shoe.

post #77 of 88
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Originally Posted by jerrybrowne View Post

Crosspost. These were a little controversial when I received them several years back. Russian calf slip ons by Cleverley. I've had lots of use out of these. Still v. comfortable and a great casual shoe.


Some nice aging on those Jerry, looks like you enjoy wearing them!
post #78 of 88
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While not the 1786 Russian leather, some St. Crispin's 575 in 075 Russian calf....







with a split toe derby made of 1786 Russian Leather from New & Lingwood....

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post #79 of 88

I understand the historical appeal of the real deal but I'd rather the St C

post #80 of 88
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Originally Posted by SoGent View Post

I understand the historical appeal of the real deal but I'd rather the St C

While the leathers used by StC and G&G are modern leathers with the look of the historical Cuir de Russie. (whose tanning secrets, allegedly, got lost during the Russian revolution) here is a product from an Estonian tannery who claims to have recreated the original methods:

http://tripleskin.com/en/projects/yufte/

I have never seen the leather, so I have no opinions about it, but at 40 EUR per sq foot, it costs a pretty penny.

There is also an interesting article on the history of the leather:

http://yufte.com/yufte.pdf
post #81 of 88
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Originally Posted by bengal-stripe View Post

While the leathers used by StC and G&G are modern leathers with the look of the historical Cuir de Russie. (whose tanning secrets, allegedly, got lost during the Russian revolution) here is a product from an Estonian tannery who claims to have recreated the original methods:

http://tripleskin.com/en/projects/yufte/

I have never seen the leather, so I have no opinions about it, but at 40 EUR per sq foot, it costs a pretty penny.

There is also an interesting article on the history of the leather:

http://yufte.com/yufte.pdf

Did you see the beaver tail leather on that website?

http://tripleskin.com/en/projects/beaver-tail/

Has a look like pebblegrain. Sort of interesting.
post #82 of 88
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Originally Posted by jerrybrowne View Post

Did you see the beaver tail leather on that website?


Yes, I saw it!

Would make nice loafer with the apron in beaver tail and the rest of the shoe in smooth calf of the same colour. biggrin.gif
post #83 of 88
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Originally Posted by bengal-stripe View Post

Yes, I saw it!

Would make nice loafer with the apron in beaver tail and the rest of the shoe in smooth calf of the same colour. biggrin.gif



post #84 of 88
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Originally Posted by bengal-stripe View Post

While the leathers used by StC and G&G are modern leathers with the look of the historical Cuir de Russie. (whose tanning secrets, allegedly, got lost during the Russian revolution) here is a product from an Estonian tannery who claims to have recreated the original methods:

http://tripleskin.com/en/projects/yufte/

I have never seen the leather, so I have no opinions about it, but at 40 EUR per sq foot, it costs a pretty penny.

There is also an interesting article on the history of the leather:

http://yufte.com/yufte.pdf

How much does Cleverley's leather cost compare to this? Just curious.
post #85 of 88
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

How much does Cleverley's leather cost compare to this? Just curious.

About 3x
post #86 of 88
Out of curiosity, have any more hides been salvaged from the Catharina von Flensburg in recent years? I seem to recall having heard that although there were still plenty of hides in the wreck, salvage operations had been suspended for a good many years. I don't remember why, but I believe safety was an issue.
post #87 of 88
That is my understanding. The wreck was discovered back in 1973 and up to maybe eight years ago the original group of divers visited the ship every summer to salvage more hides. But of course, those divers had gotten old, so those that remained stopped further visits, despite the fact that a considerable number of hides are still down there.

The legal owner of the wreck is the Duke of Cornwall (Prince of Wales) and I believe there are no plans at the moment to grant permission to another team of divers. But of course, there might be a change in a number of years and there is always the possibility that the remaining hides gets harvested at some point in the future.

After all, twenty or so more years at the bottom of Plymouth sound won't make a great deal of difference to the remaining stuff.
post #88 of 88
@bengal-stripe definitely knows more about this than me, but in addition to what he said, I think I remember reading somewhere that the remaining leathers are harder to get to. Essentially, those bags are all over the sunken ship and they've taken the "lowest hanging fruit." The stuff that's left requires a bit more risk to fetch out, so few people are willing to do the work.
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