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post #8236 of 37405
I have been on SF for 3 years now, and i still feel like i don't know anything... confused.gif
post #8237 of 37405
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Originally Posted by Kira View Post

Perhaps this discussion would've been more productive if I didn't have the mark of a neophyte. It's hard to I see how other members post gratuitous and inflammatory remarks towards me for no reason other than the sake of it. Remember, I did state that I was new to redefining my personal dress and I had much to learn. I gave my arguments against it and others rebutted it. Provide some feedback on how I'm wrong and I'll stand corrected. I already mentioned that those jackets aren't acceptable to SF standards because they don't follow the provisions.
Perhaps I don't know any better. Maybe I have more to learn that I believe..

perhaps you do have more to learn than you believe. in that case, the first step is to read/lurk more, before critiquing things you may not full understand. the more you read and the more fits that are well liked that you see, the more you will understand.
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Originally Posted by JubeiSpiegel View Post

I have been on SF for 3 years now, and i still feel like i don't know anything... confused.gif

i know that feel.
post #8238 of 37405
@Kira You're getting backlash for a combination of stating opinion as fact, stating some things that aren't necessarily correct, and then continuing to rebuke what is pretty accurate information being posted.

The double breasted jacket didn't do you any favors, either.
post #8239 of 37405
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Originally Posted by TM79 View Post

@Kira You're getting backlash for a combination of stating opinion as fact, stating some things that aren't necessarily correct, and then continuing to rebuke what is pretty accurate information being posted.

The double breasted jacket didn't do you any favors, either.

 

I think it's simpler than that.  Noodles, JR and Luv2B all came here with zero attitude, asked questions, listened to the answers, asked more questions and, most importantly, did not argue with those trying to help them.  Kira, this thread is not going to work for you unless you can do the same.

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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post

[...]

 

  1. The gorge is high, but it's not overly so. It could be slightly lower, but that depends on his proportions. Taller people can pull off a lower one more easily than shorter people. [...]

 

Exactly.   Very roughly, the “neutral position” positions the notch on a notch lapel on or near the clavicle.  Wider people can go up, skinny people down, etc.

 

All other factors being equal, higher position slims, lower position widens. 

 

Cheers,

 

Ac


Edited by Academic2 - 7/1/14 at 1:38pm
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I think that New Shoes hit the nail on the head.  There was a discussion some pages back about why this thread took off and a lot of it was Noodles' willingness to accept and incorporate the honest and direct feedback given by some of the more senior posters - and he had a lot more invested in his wardrobe than a couple of thrifted jackets.

 

TM and JS are also spot on - lurk and learn before dishing out critiques.  I was on SF for 18 mo before joining and still have <300 posts - I know that I don't know enough yet to give advice to GDL or Stitchy or Claghorn...and when I ask them for feedback (which is still rare since at the point I'm at I can usually figure it out from reading) I'm damn sure not going to disregard what they say.

 

 

Fun post count math note:

 

jssdc post count = ~270 in ~30 months, or .3 posts/day

institches post count = 61,000 in 33 months, or 61 posts/day

so stitchy could equal my post count in just under a work week

post #8242 of 37405

Yeah...I think my attitude is "I suck so listen to others who know better." 

I will use all that the senior members have to offer in order to nail down my look to perfection. 

It has not been easy to put down all my opinions and face the reality. 

(It is hard to live with 3 bad fitting Zegna suits that you bought at full retail). 

But you learn from the mistakes and move onward towards perfection. 

Heck, how do you improve yourself if you don't accept constructive criticisms?

This has been my attitude in my professional career and it has served me well. 

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Originally Posted by jssdc View Post

Fun post count math note:
jssdc post count = ~270 in ~30 months, or .3 posts/day
institches post count = 61,000 in 33 months, or 61 posts/day
so stitchy could equal my post count in just under a work week

in my heyday, i could do that in under 2 days. shog[1].gif
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Originally Posted by The Noodles View Post

(It is hard to live with 3 bad fitting Zegna suits that you bought at full retail). 

if it makes you feel better, i have a zegna su misura suit sitting in my closet that cost me about 3700, that i have not worn in over a year. and when i was fitted at the place i was shopping, i could have got a sick MTM isaia FU suit for about the same price, but i went with the zegna instead.

now, the fit is terrible, and i have dropped 20/25 pounds since then, so even if i had got the isaia, it would be useless to me, but at least it would be more re-saleable.

what im saying is, you are not alone, brother.
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iGents, more advice needed :-D

 

A bit more work here.. but I have a significant amount of credit at Kent Wang and was wondering what to get for a light sport coat that's not navy. Something that could go with a lot of things easily (I mainly wear blues, browns, and burgundy and greens for the ties, though there's more than just that) and that's a summer-weight. I live in Phoenix and it gets to be around 110 here so I won't really be wearing it too much in the middle of summer, but even in the winter, a summer weight isn't too bad of a choice here since there's maybe a month were I could use a real winter weight.

 

Light weight, not too loud, and not navy. I've got these two so far as my only SC/Blazers. Maybe a brown would do good?

 

Link to Kent Wang fabrics page (go most of the way down for the fabric book links). One other thing - Preferably A-D cost. The cost is noted by letter on (usually) the lower right hand part of the swatch label.

 

http://www.kentwang.com/about/suits/

 

Thanks in advance, friends.

 

 

 

post #8245 of 37405
if you are set with those for blue, and they are both nice, id defo go for brown as your next SC. i need one of those too.
post #8246 of 37405
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

if you are set with those for blue, and they are both nice, id defo go for brown as your next SC. i need one of those too.

The patterned one is a bit short - I Got the measurements wrong. Think closer to GQ than SF approved for that. But it works with jeans on a casual day. Only because it can't be returned and feels fantastic. The navy fits great. I think I'll drop the button stance and make it a tad bit longer on the next SC though..

 

post #8247 of 37405
that looks very good. id go brown now, and then maybe after that return to a another navy. or maybe brown, then a check, then navy. what i am saying is, that navy is more than serviceable. its v nice. if you were to do another navy after that, i would say to consider a less formal weave, just to give some variety to your navy arsenal, allow you to wear some more relaxed shirts and ties and it still be coherent.
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Originally Posted by mrjester View Post
 

iGents, more advice needed :-D

 

A bit more work here.. but I have a significant amount of credit at Kent Wang and was wondering what to get for a light sport coat that's not navy. Something that could go with a lot of things easily (I mainly wear blues, browns, and burgundy and greens for the ties, though there's more than just that) and that's a summer-weight. I live in Phoenix and it gets to be around 110 here so I won't really be wearing it too much in the middle of summer, but even in the winter, a summer weight isn't too bad of a choice here since there's maybe a month were I could use a real winter weight.

 

Light weight, not too loud, and not navy. I've got these two so far as my only SC/Blazers. Maybe a brown would do good?

 

Link to Kent Wang fabrics page (go most of the way down for the fabric book links). One other thing - Preferably A-D cost. The cost is noted by letter on (usually) the lower right hand part of the swatch label.

 

http://www.kentwang.com/about/suits/

 

Thanks in advance, friends.

 

 

 

TRE1018 from this book looks really cool, the one below that as well: http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3788/12812861933_1dd3c0d018_k.jpg

It's a bit heavier though, and E priced.

 

Natural shoulders, perhaps pleated, 2 patch pockets and swelled edges. Would make a fantastic casual sportcoat. I'd say anything blue/navy/burgundy/green goes with that. Maybe a dark brown tie as well.

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Originally Posted by Monkeyface View Post
 

 

TRE1018 from this book looks really cool, the one below that as well: http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3788/12812861933_1dd3c0d018_k.jpg

It's a bit heavier though, and E priced.

 

Natural shoulders, perhaps pleated, 2 patch pockets and swelled edges. Would make a fantastic casual sportcoat. I'd say anything blue/navy/burgundy/green goes with that. Maybe a dark brown tie as well.

Do you think TRE1001 from that page is any good? Very top right. A bit plain, but I think for versatility, that's probably best for now. It's also linen, which is good for here.

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Originally Posted by mrjester View Post
 

Do you think TRE1001 from that page is any good? Very top right. A bit plain, but I think for versatility, that's probably best for now. It's also linen, which is good for here.

 

I'd say the check is too small for a sportcoat, it should be thicker like TRE1008.

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