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post #5401 of 37392
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post
 

 

I have the same issue - the big head makes the shoulders look smaller, so the shape is important to balance.

 

 

This suit doesn't look great; Claggy's is much nicer in fit.  Over-surpressing the waist makes the chest bow, and causes that pulling around the middle, and looks like it's someone else's suit.  Slim fit isn't about being slim, it's a trendy thing like skinny lapels etc.  With a more classic cut that fits you comfortably and is shaped to you, you will never lose.  But what makes the shoulders on that guy look prominent is the marked roping - see how high up the sleeveheads are sitting.  That's a really great way of making the shoulder look extended without it looking like you're wearing your dad's.  I wish my tailor knew how to do it that well.  There's no chance of finding a roped shoulder where I live, so sooner or later I guess I'll have to get the money for a proper tailor back in Europe. Or visit Korea, apparently.  But you should look out for that as a feature.

 

P.S. Claggy also has a big head, and uneven shoulders.  But then again he's more handsome.  Some we win, some we lose.  Either way, he's got his local tailor working wonders.

First off, where have you been, sir?

Hope you've been well. Nice to see you back here. 

I will have to visit Korea every year from here on out 'cus of my wife, so maybe I will get to B&TAILORS soon. 

I didn't know my big head made my shoulders narrower. Bummer. 

 

I asked my friend if, at age 32, I can still broaden my shoulders and he pretty much said, "No." 

He said that's all done when you're in high school/college. If you didn't do it back then, then you're pretty much screwed. 

Don't know if he's right. 

 

My next suit shall be...

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THIS (Click to show)
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post #5402 of 37392
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post
 

I'd say the Formosa is a bit stiffer whereas Liverano/B&T seems a bit more relaxed. Different strokes for different folks, but both are world's better than the wrapped like a sausage shrunken lapel shite they sell at high end department stores.

Yes, just look at this piece of $#!T. 

 

ISAIA(?) - A SIZE TOO SMALL (Click to show)
post #5403 of 37392
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Originally Posted by EliodA View Post

+1 on roped shoulders for making shoulders look more prominent in a good way. Example: X-post from my fit from today:


Mai Gawd I love it! Roped shoulders are seriously growing on me. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
post #5404 of 37392
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Originally Posted by Rudals View Post

First off, where have you been, sir?
Hope you've been well. Nice to see you back here. 
I will have to visit Korea every year from here on out 'cus of my wife, so maybe I will get to B&TAILORS soon. 
I didn't know my big head made my shoulders narrower. Bummer. 

I asked my friend if, at age 32, I can still broaden my shoulders and he pretty much said, "No." 
He said that's all done when you're in high school/college. If you didn't do it back then, then you're pretty much screwed. 
Don't know if he's right. 

My next suit shall be... THIS (Click to show)
april18_277_1.jpg
THIS (Click to show)
april18_273_1.jpg

That's just not true. The width of your shoulders is genetically determined at conception. Some people just have wider shoulders than others, but that is mainly because of the bone structure.

Don't despair, you can always change the width/size of your shoulder and back muscles, whether you're 18 or 80 doesn't matter much. As long as you have testosterone in your body, lift weights and eat enough, you could easily grow your shoulders to increase at least a suit size or two, if not more. It won't happen overnight, but I can guarantee you that if you work out heavy at least 3 times a week and eat enough food, you'll have much bigger shoulders and a much wider back in about 2-3 years.
You need to set goals for yourself and stick to them for a long time, but it's definitely attainable. Whether you actually achieve it is entirely up to you. The shape of your body is one of the few things in life that is truly under your own control, provided you're relatively healthy, able bodied, etc.
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Don't forget your back! It's equally important if you want that V shape. Just do pull ups. It's probably the best exercise for your back and shoulders and it's near impossible to injure yourself. If you can't do a set of 8 start with doing only the downward motion.
Edited by Monkeyface - 5/12/14 at 8:42am
post #5407 of 37392

Um...this might be the worst timing but I am going on a fast (religious) and so I will only be drinking water until next Sunday. Yeah, I am serious. 

 

I've never been able to do a pull up EVER in my life by the way...:violin:

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Originally Posted by Rudals View Post

Um...this might be the worst timing but I am going on a fast (religious) and so I will only be drinking water until next Sunday. Yeah, I am serious. 

I've never been able to do a pull up EVER in my life by the way...musicboohoo%5B1%5D.gif

Good luck!
post #5409 of 37392
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Originally Posted by Rudals View Post
 

Um...this might be the worst timing but I am going on a fast (religious) and so I will only be drinking water until next Sunday. Yeah, I am serious. 

 

I've never been able to do a pull up EVER in my life by the way...:violin:

 

Wait wut?

I think you need to wait on any suit purchases then and get thee to a gym. At least start doing some bodyweight exercises. Push ups with different hand positions, dips, planks, sit ups, pull and chin ups. Do it for a few months and you will see changes. You can do these at any time and any where, so there's no excuse. 

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Originally Posted by Rudals View Post

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that is a winner and i think that you may be unsure of the cut at first because it will be so different than what you are used to, but it will be excellent for you.
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ISAIA(?) - A SIZE TOO SMALL (Click to show)

please note, ime, both isaia and zegna make excellent suits, and in cuts very different than what you have experienced. the problem is that the type of RTW that NM and the like stock is a cut that you have learned does not work for you. its a more generic, made for americans who know not about SF, type cut. its not aggressive at all, and its for people who dont want/know about such things.
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Uh...I do everything except the pull up. I do push ups, curls, benchpress, dumbbell squats, jump ropes, planks ,etc. I just said I cannot do pull ups for whatever reasons.

post #5412 of 37392
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post


that is a winner and i think that you may be unsure of the cut at first because it will be so different than what you are used to, but it will be excellent for you.
please note, ime, both isaia and zegna make excellent suits, and in cuts very different than what you have experienced. the problem is that the type of RTW that NM and the like stock is a cut that you have learned does not work for you. its a more generic, made for americans who know not about SF, type cut. its not aggressive at all, and its for people who dont want/know about such things.

That NMWA will be freaking beast. 

That Isaiaiaia suit was a $4,000 mistake that was made but luckily NM took it back despite being outside of return period. Hew~

post #5413 of 37392
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Originally Posted by Rudals View Post

Uh...I do everything except the pull up. I do push ups, curls, benchpress, dumbbell squats, jump ropes, planks ,etc. I just said I cannot do pull ups for whatever reasons.

If you can't do pull-ups, you have some options but you don't want to overwork your chest and underwork your back, which it sounds like you are doing based on the above. If you go to a gym, most will have a pull-up assist machine which reduces the weight you are effectively lifting during a pull-up. Start working on that. You could also do lat pull downs and various rowing exercises with dumbbells.
post #5414 of 37392
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Originally Posted by archibaldleach View Post


If you can't do pull-ups, you have some options but you don't want to overwork your chest and underwork your back, which it sounds like you are doing based on the above. If you go to a gym, most will have a pull-up assist machine which reduces the weight you are effectively lifting during a pull-up. Start working on that. You could also do lat pull downs and various rowing exercises with dumbbells.

I had membership a Gold's gym and all I did was the stairmaster or something. I was too intimidated to go over to the weight lifting section. Them dudes were pumped up. 

Now, what is this rowing exercise with dumbbells you speak of? Any youtube links?

post #5415 of 37392
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Originally Posted by Rudals View Post

That NMWA will be freaking beast. 
That Isaiaiaia suit was a $4,000 mistake that was made but luckily NM took it back despite being outside of return period. Hew~

aka, 2 formosas from NMWA. teacha.gif
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