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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

I figured that was the reason. I encountered the same thing here when I first starting posting and I think that your plan of action is wise, and similar to what I did.

If I could pontificate for a minute and delve into some psychoanalysis, I would offer the following.

No one buys things that they think look bad. When we choose items, we try them on, and when something that appeals to us, we buy it. The issue is, that what SF considers good is usually different than what most people intuitively think looks nice. In both design and fit. Most of us did not grow up in an SF environment. I guarantee that most of us were far more influenced by GQ, Esquire, pop culture and the like long before we arrived here.

We probably thought we looked damn good, so when a barrage of SFers tell you look like crap, its a pretty harsh shock, and on top of it, you usually don't understand why it looks like crap because your eye sees it as great. The challenge lies in our accepting that although we think we look good, maybe we don't, and in challenging ourselves to retrain our eyes and allow ourselves to see things differently.

If we refuse to accept feedback and change our perspective, we will never improve our looks to SF standards. Now, that is fine. If a person thinks they look awesome, and they do not like or want the SF look, and I'd like to note that SF allows for a broad range of personal style, just within a certain confine of points that should be hit, then great, but stop posting here. Trying to shove your look down the throat of a forum that is well established and knows what it likes is a wasteful endeavor for everyone. If you are so cock sure you look amazing and all the women you see and your friends you know tell you so, great, make a blog and hand out cards with the url.

That being said, what I did was this. As you noted, I got pretty much the same feedback fit after fit, detailing what I was doing wrong by SF standards, and after I while, I knew what was wrong when I got dressed without having to ask. And that which used to look good to my eye now looked bad, as I began to develop a greater appreciation for the SF aesthetic. So I stopped posting and bought some new stuff. And I started to get feedback that sounded like this, "Hey Stitch, x and y look much better, but a, b and c are still off." Some things pertaining to fit, others to color/pattern/formality combination errors.

After a while, those things started to sink in more, and I sold off some stuff and bought some more stuff. Eventually I got to the point where I had retrained myself to understand intuitively was was good and what was bad, within the SF preferred look, and that was my goal. Not because I had some idea that SF was gospel, but because when I looked at pictures of the guys here that hit the SF mark, I said to myself, "wow, those guys dress a million times better than me, and I would like to look like that." Even though at the start I thought I looked good, I appreciated that if I consented to the fact the maybe I don't know everything, I could look a lot better.

It took a solid 2 years or more, and I am still learning, but after a lot of trial and error and after a lot of buying and selling, I finally reached a point where I felt satisfied in what I had and how I dressed. That is not to say I think that I have reached my end game, or that I have no improvements to make, but that I think I have really got to the point that I comprehend what SF has taught me, and I know how to continue on the road to improvement.

I think the more apt one is to take on this kind of perspective, the more likely they are to improve, and to enjoy what SF has to offer, both as an instrument to dressing better and as a community.
False. Ask her for pics as soon as you walk in the door. Hell, I usually call my wife and give her a heads up that I will be expecting pics when I get home. 100% serious.

How right is that? Stitchy icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

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Originally Posted by Rudals View Post

My wife banned me from SF..seriously. frown.gif

Two approaches old fruit here (A) Foot down, "NO"! (B) "Listen my love, there are far worse things that I could be doing other than liaising with friends about the merits of presenting myself in the best light for you and anyone else I love dearly"!

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Originally Posted by jungleroller View Post

Rudals you need to draw some lines and pull your balls out of your purse. I say that with e-love to ya brother!

Well, fair enough, I suppose...

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I still haven't admitted to my wife my ulterior life on here. Still trying to figure that one out lol.

^ A ha, take your own advice ^ rotflmao.gif
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lol touché!
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lol touché!

Very good mate rotflmao.gif
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Originally Posted by jungleroller View Post

Rudals you need to draw some lines and pull your balls out of your purse. I say that with e-love to ya brother!

She's feeding me as I am typing this. In reality, she just wants me to limit my time spent here.

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 "Listen my love, there are far worse things that I could be doing other than liaising with friends about the merits of presenting myself in the best light for you and anyone else I love dearly"!

Shoot, it's not like I gamble, do drugs, get wasted, or play computer games all night long. 

 

It's SF, work, home, SF, work, home...for me. 

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Originally Posted by Rudals View Post

She's feeding me as I am typing this. In reality, she just wants me to limit my time spent here.

Seems reasonable. I'm on here during the work day sporadically and barely at all outside of that - I'll check Spoo's thread for flash sales at night and that's it for me if there's nothing happening.
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Originally Posted by Rudals View Post
 

She's feeding me as I am typing this. In reality, she just wants me to limit my time spent here.

 

That was my suspicion, that it was less about SF and more about how much time you spend on your computer/phone when you get home from work.  Sounds like a fair request that warrants further discussion in the Noodles household.

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Originally Posted by Rudals View Post

Shoot, it's not like I gamble, do drugs, get wasted, or play computer games all night long. 
It's SF, work, home, SF, work, home...for me. 

not enough SF in there, sorry.
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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

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I figured that was the reason. I encountered the same thing here when I first starting posting and I think that your plan of action is wise, and similar to what I did.

If I could pontificate for a minute and delve into some psychoanalysis, I would offer the following.

No one buys things that they think look bad. When we choose items, we try them on, and when something that appeals to us, we buy it. The issue is, that what SF considers good is usually different than what most people intuitively think looks nice. In both design and fit. Most of us did not grow up in an SF environment. I guarantee that most of us were far more influenced by GQ, Esquire, pop culture and the like long before we arrived here.

We probably thought we looked damn good, so when a barrage of SFers tell you look like crap, its a pretty harsh shock, and on top of it, you usually don't understand why it looks like crap because your eye sees it as great. The challenge lies in our accepting that although we think we look good, maybe we don't, and in challenging ourselves to retrain our eyes and allow ourselves to see things differently.

If we refuse to accept feedback and change our perspective, we will never improve our looks to SF standards. Now, that is fine. If a person thinks they look awesome, and they do not like or want the SF look, and I'd like to note that SF allows for a broad range of personal style, just within a certain confine of points that should be hit, then great, but stop posting here. Trying to shove your look down the throat of a forum that is well established and knows what it likes is a wasteful endeavor for everyone. If you are so cock sure you look amazing and all the women you see and your friends you know tell you so, great, make a blog and hand out cards with the url.

That being said, what I did was this. As you noted, I got pretty much the same feedback fit after fit, detailing what I was doing wrong by SF standards, and after I while, I knew what was wrong when I got dressed without having to ask. And that which used to look good to my eye now looked bad, as I began to develop a greater appreciation for the SF aesthetic. So I stopped posting and bought some new stuff. And I started to get feedback that sounded like this, "Hey Stitch, x and y look much better, but a, b and c are still off." Some things pertaining to fit, others to color/pattern/formality combination errors.

After a while, those things started to sink in more, and I sold off some stuff and bought some more stuff. Eventually I got to the point where I had retrained myself to understand intuitively was was good and what was bad, within the SF preferred look, and that was my goal. Not because I had some idea that SF was gospel, but because when I looked at pictures of the guys here that hit the SF mark, I said to myself, "wow, those guys dress a million times better than me, and I would like to look like that." Even though at the start I thought I looked good, I appreciated that if I consented to the fact the maybe I don't know everything, I could look a lot better.

It took a solid 2 years or more, and I am still learning, but after a lot of trial and error and after a lot of buying and selling, I finally reached a point where I felt satisfied in what I had and how I dressed. That is not to say I think that I have reached my end game, or that I have no improvements to make, but that I think I have really got to the point that I comprehend what SF has taught me, and I know how to continue on the road to improvement.

I think the more apt one is to take on this kind of perspective, the more likely they are to improve, and to enjoy what SF has to offer, both as an instrument to dressing better and as a community.
False. Ask her for pics as soon as you walk in the door. Hell, I usually call my wife and give her a heads up that I will be expecting pics when I get home. 100% serious.

 

Thank you for this insightful post, Stitchy. I feel that I have learned a lot from posting, and from the SF tough love that I've received. I'm grateful that I can learn from those more knowledgeable than myself, and those who are able to articulate why certain fits look better than others.

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Originally Posted by in stitches View Post

So I stopped posting...

Not posting for an hour does not mean "I stopped posting". :poke:


But seriously. Very well said.
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Originally Posted by Academic2 View Post
 

I’m in the market for a pair of cream colored tropical-weight wool trousers.  I don’t want to spend more than $150 USD.  I’m thin (approx. 30 waist/30 inseam) and prefer a more traditional rise, so nothing too low-rise.

 

So, Yount, Luxire, any place else I should look?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

It's an odd suggestion, I admit, but have you looked into cricket/tennis trousers? The kind that are worn at fancy tennis/cricket clubs? I have off-white tropical gabardine pants from here. Not quite in your range, but I'm sure there are other sellers. Also, Brooks Brothers.

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Originally Posted by coldsalmon View Post

Thank you for this insightful post, Stitchy. I feel that I have learned a lot from posting, and from the SF tough love that I've received. I'm grateful that I can learn from those more knowledgeable than myself, and those who are able to articulate why certain fits look better than others.

thanks, man. glad you enjoyed and that SF is proving beneficial to you.
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Originally Posted by DerekS View Post

Not posting for an hour does not mean "I stopped posting". :poke:
But seriously. Very well said.

lol dick head.

and thanks!!!
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If people were open minded enough to realize and accept that there's a certain "SF approved" style, and were open to actually learning, the forum would be a much better place. I kinda feel a lot of newer people now come to post pics and show off their gq friendly fits.
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there are some people here to learn, sadly they get drowned out from time to time. frown.gif
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I guarantee there are people on here right now who took my approach and read a lot, said nothing, observed, and bought nothing until they could really pick some stuff out on their own without needing a pat on the back or a thumbs up from people. I think it's insanely stupid to binge buy as you're learning, regardless of income. You may as well wait until winter and throw that money into your fireplace to heat your living room - at least then it would serve a more practical purpose.

And also, for some reason the real thick heads always have booming voices to match, ha. But at least they announce their soon-to-be ignored presence instead of slowly revealing themselves to be a waste of time. I can appreciate that on some level.
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