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So many bright yellow ties on the hill

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Boston puts DC to shame in terms of poorly dressed professionals. Lots of black suits, cheap shoes, ill fitting items etc.

Last year I couldn't tell what was uglier - the gaping holes in the ground in the financial sector or the people walking throughout it.
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So many bright yellow ties on the hill

It's the semi-secret symbol of cowardice and not voting for what you really believe in.
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Seoul. And it does it horribly. But bus drivers are required to wear a suit and tie. The greeters at my grocery store are required to wear a suit and tie. Pretty much all salarymen are. At least a third of the retired men I see on subways are wearing jacket and tie. And I imagine collectively, the suited denizens of Seoul look far, far worse than those of DC.

Seoul (서울)

Every time I visit Seoul, I am quite disappointed in what I see. 

The real life Koreans do not dress like the Koreans in Korean dramas. Duh~

 

The salarymen are probably the worst dressers in Korea. 

Why?

My friends told me that if you wear a blue shirt, you'll stick out and your boss will be on your @ss. 

Why?

It's a group society and it is a hierarchical (by age) society so you're supposed to blend in and you're not supposed to outclass your boss by dressing better than him.  

 

Men wear cheap looking and slim suits with really bad shoes. Their tie selection is probably just something dark with white shirts.

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That suit on the mannequin is freaking awesome. I would buy that in a heartbeat if my wife wasn't shopping at Ethan Allen right now. censored.gif

kop now
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

You see poorly dressed dudes just because there are so many dudes wearing suit and tie. But the majority are doing fine IMHO.


from what i see, this is correct.
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Seoul (서울)

Every time I visit Seoul, I am quite disappointed in what I see. 

The real life Koreans do not dress like the Koreans in Korean dramas. Duh~

 

The salarymen are probably the worst dressers in Korea. 

Why?

My friends told me that if you wear a blue shirt, you'll stick out and your boss will be on your @ss. 

Why?

It's a group society and it is a hierarchical (by age) society so you're supposed to blend in and you're not supposed to outclass your boss by dressing better than him.  

 

Men wear cheap looking and slim suits with really bad shoes. Their tie selection is probably just something dark. 

 

So who wears those awesome B&tailor suits?

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So who wears those awesome B&tailor suits?

Clags and some sporty ministers.
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So who wears those awesome B&tailor suits?

definitely not your usual salarymen. I believe B&T is priced above $1,500 and MOST Korean salarymen do NOT shop in that range. Most salarymen shop around $300 to $600 range...so I was told. 

 

As for stuff like Zegna, stay the heck away from them. They are 1.5 to 2 times the U.S. prices. It's ridiculous. I almost got my wedding shirt for $500 but my wife yanked me outta there and got me a shirt for under $100 and it was just as nice (fabric definitely). 

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Does a tuxedo have many bells and whistles? Do you think the tuxedo inhibits your fun-having in a way that a peak lapel navy suit does not?

No, but the peak lapel suit would not strictly be for black tie occasions. And I wasn't suggesting that it inhibited fun, only that it didn't contribute to it (or if it did, it would be in the mind of the wearer, a mind I lack apparently). A baseball uniform contributes to the playing of baseball. Hitting a ball with the sun in your eyes is tough, sliding in shorts is painful, and those cleats really do help with speed.

Anyway, this is beginning to feel a bit foo.gif
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definitely not your usual salarymen. I believe B&T is priced above $1,000 and MOST Korean salarymen do NOT shop in that range. 
CMT is ~1500 for a suit, which I think is an insane deal. Then again, I've not had much experience with high end bespoke. Tchoy has, though, and holds BnT in pretty high esteem.
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Here are some ties I've picked up over the last few weeks after reading this thread.

Drakes, Drakes, Hober, Hober, Wu....

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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post

No, but the peak lapel suit would not strictly be for black tie occasions. And I wasn't suggesting that it inhibited fun, only that it didn't contribute to it (or if it did, it would be in the mind of the wearer, a mind I lack apparently). A baseball uniform contributes to the playing of baseball. Hitting a ball with the sun in your eyes is tough, sliding in shorts is painful, and those cleats really do help with speed.

Anyway, this is beginning to feel a bit foo.gif

Is gray particularly useful for playing on the road? What is the function of stirrups? Are golf visors not equally effective as baseball caps in shielding from the sun? Why is baseball the only sports whose participants wear belts?
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CMT is ~1500

 

Those are very reasonable prices if that is for bespoke. Do they ever travel abroad?

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Here are some ties I've picked up over the last few weeks after reading this thread.

Drakes, Drakes, Hober, Hober, Wu....

Going left to right, 2nd for grey suits and 4th one for whatever. Others I would toss out. 

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Going left to right, 2nd for grey suits and 4th one for whatever. Others I would toss out. 

The one on the far right you can wear with almost anything. Far left would be fine with a navy suit IMHO. Maybe some greys too, would have to see in person.
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