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You're making the same error with your comments, then.

I can only go by my own personal experience in my worldwide travels, but I've seen enough to vouch for Coxy's comments and my own and therefore it's not just 'My Uncle Joe...' etc. because it's a LOT more than just one person. Naturally it's not the whole world, but I'd say you haven't spoken or have knowledge of the whole world either, so you're in the same boat as me. So what indeed is correct. You've proven nothing.

See ya...
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Lol, that was my point. I was canceling out your baseless example with a baseless one of my own, not using it as evidence. I wasn't trying to prove anything to you.

 

You Australians are pretty rambunctious. Speaking of which, by way of anecdote, my impression is that Australians have a pretty strong group identity that is intriguing because on the one hand it's about not being confused as Brits, not having the same accent, etc., but on the other there is the clear preference for commonwealth modes and manners and the supercilious attitude toward the non-Commonwealth way. I guess this kind of tension exists in all commonwealth countries, but the linguistic superiority one is fascinating to me... almost a means of thought control inculcated in commonwealth subjects by making them feel their particular drawl is better than the Yanks', and therefore never quite slipping out of the loving embrace of the Queen.  It's strange stuff!!

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Thread Starter 

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Haha.

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Cox + wraith =2
Sprout =1

As the sample size grows larger....
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I see that someone is good at "math" around here! Good job!

https://www.jstor.org/stable/2138632

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_cascade

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Sprout's trolling, as always, but I like that he always has some kind of point or perceptive logic with it. So here it'd go something like it doesn't matter that cox, wraith, and also I use "maths", since we're all in the commonwealth. In fact, I'm in the commonwealth 3 times since I grew up in Hong Kong, have an Australian passport, then move to the UK!

 

Strangely enough, I pronounce yogurt as Yo-ghurt instead of Yog-ghurt, same with garage.

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Sprout's trolling, as always, but I like that he always has some kind of point or perceptive logic with it.

You sure you're reading the unfunded thread correctly?
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Can any of you fine gentlemen here help me identify the style of this shoe + where I can find a similar alternative?

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

 

 

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Plain toe blucher

Almost everyone carries a version of this.
For casual - Alden's are a popular choice, Vass also
More sleek/formal - Carmina, meermin, Enzo Bonafe
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You open your own pockets? I'll bet you'll say next that you iron your own shirts! And that you even cook your own toast and file your own taxes? Egad! Pass the smelling salts.


I will have you know that I am capable of changing my own oil! No one has ever seen me do it, and I'd probably screw it up if I tried, so I'm just happy to let the gas station attendant do it. Other than that I will continue to look for comments with "so much value"!

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You sure you're reading the unfunded thread correctly?

 

:stirpot:

 

I suggest you actually read the Ivo Welch research above... I don't know why you've been on a vigilante streak lately and piling on.

 

Caustic Man, Willing to Learn has made it abundantly clear in 9/10th of posts that he seeks a high ROI on the posts he reads, seeking ones with a strong core message and that contribute to the collective knowledge of the forum. You should not be wasting his time, as he is a busy man and makes more investing in an hour than you do in a year. A man like that does not have time to trifle with digressions, jokes, inquisitive debate, nostalgic diatribes, banter, tit-for-tat, boring interludes, ass & titties, or any combination of the above. He wants to know where to get the best ancient thirst and get it now, and you would do well to give him the info he so rightly deserves as a lifetime paying member of the StyleForum Elite Gold Package. He did not sign up to this boutique service only to have a bunch of penniless academics burden his inbox with rhetoric. So could you please, in layman's terms, give him the deets? When is NSM coming to Manhattan, how much is a pair of cashmere pantaloons, and is it worth going to TipTop in Brooklyn to get old woolen rolls from the 1960s? if you could make snappy with the answers, we could finally get this forum moving and get us all dressed and onto the next mission, which is compensating for our lack of inherent libido by clobbering women with our paychecks and John Lobb Paris shoe trees.


Edited by sprout2 - 9/12/16 at 11:15pm
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You Australians are pretty rambunctious. Speaking of which, by way of anecdote, my impression is that Australians have a pretty strong group identity that is intriguing because on the one hand it's about not being confused as Brits, not having the same accent, etc., but on the other there is the clear preference for commonwealth modes and manners and the supercilious attitude toward the non-Commonwealth way. I guess this kind of tension exists in all commonwealth countries, but the linguistic superiority one is fascinating to me... almost a means of thought control inculcated in commonwealth subjects by making them feel their particular drawl is better than the Yanks', and therefore never quite slipping out of the loving embrace of the Queen.  It's strange stuff!!

Can't resist adding my AUD 0.02 (or 1p, at the pre-Brexit exchange rate) since I grew up in the UK and my wife is Australian. Maybe I got it all wrong though, just a guest's observations...

 

There is a fundamental cultural difference between Brits and Aussies and that is that a core part of the identity of an Australian is independence from hierarchy and equality (sometimes called mateship, sometimes called tall poppy syndrome) whereas despite being the first to come up with individual rights since Antiquity (Magna Carta), chopping off their king's head for freedom (Cromwell) and being responsible for modern civilisation and the middle class (Industrial Revolution) the Brits' society is fundamentally hierarchical. 

 

This hierarchy is extremely complex thanks to Britain ruling the waves for centuries, parts of it have been internationalised since the Empire founded the basis of much of modern civilisation and its former colony is the current master of the waves, and it is present and hard set and causes Brits to be more willing to defer to expert opinion, to actually acknowledge some kind of objectivity in rules (such as what to wear, where they came up with what is now the global standard rules) whereas Australians might pay lip service to and sort of follow these rules but generally do whatever the hell they like. These rules were as necessary to the well functioning of the enormous Empire as standardisation of city architecture was to the Romans. This forum might be further confused by the fact that most Oz members (I suspect) belong to the parts of the economy that frequently interface with this international, British-flavoured hierarchy (finance, government...) and thus are more open and understanding to the idea. 

 

This is why Brits think received pronunciation is the way forward (indeed accent is a major class signal, more so than even clothing) whilst most of the Commonwealth doesn't really care. I worked in India and it was a bit of a shock to be told I had a weird foreign accent, "like a Britisher" - to an Indian, Indian English is a perfectly valid language and pronunciation and it is the Brits who are the weird foreigners (and in terms of relative speaker population, they have a point). 

 

(If you are wondering about my native France: structurally hierarchical, nominally egalitarian, with the cognitive dissonance resolved by a cultural mix of rebelliousness and cynicism, the Gallic shrug, c'est la vie.)

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I don't know why you've been on a vigilante streak lately and piling on.

 

That's a bit dramatic, but I apologize for any unintentional rudeness.

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That's a bit dramatic, but I apologize for any unintentional rudeness.

 

Yeah, you're probably right. I think the humours of the soul rage at an all-time high in late summer.

 

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