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My thoughts on those jeans...

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Originally Posted by sprout2 View Post
 

A good rule of thumb that has been eaten away by tie makers pumping out ties in every permutation of pattern and material in order to keep us buying ties like they are toilet paper.

 

The following is strictly subjective but I believe based on a sound set of principles.

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I really dislike a glen check tie. There is some evidence (and push) for these to be a wedding tie, but there are plenty of less crazy options out there for a wedding tie, and glen check is so ubiquitous in suits (and even jackets) that I fail to see a place for it as a tie.

A puppytooth tie is workable if in a weave and color configuration suitable as a wedding tie.

For some reason, herringbone ties are flooding the market in summer fabrics, but I don't like it.

Really detest a gun club necktie.

Ties with checks are also a non-starter for me.

 

I don't think I am the only one that find herringbone and gun club to be avowedly winter-oriented patterns, and producing things that would pass for tweed if they weren't made in linen and silk seems like going for the least effort possible in creating something actually summer oriented.

 

On that note, I never cared for the herringbone worsted suit. There are infinitely better options in suiting. But I digress.

 

The reverse is exceedingly uncommon, though. (Tie material/pattern in clothing) Satin jacket? Grenadine suit? I don't think anyone would raise a fuss about foulard-printed boxer shorts. This should, in theory, make picking non-egregious ties easy: repps, florals, knits, etc.

 

 

Thanks for weighing in, this is very helpful. Wedding ties are one of the main areas that cause confusion to me. All those checks and plaids seem to appear on suits or sport coats. So, other than puppytooth which you mentioned, what other wedding tie options do you like?

 

Personally, I am not a fan of many repp ties, so I tend to gravitate towards solids and neat patterns.

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Thanks for weighing in, this is very helpful. Wedding ties are one of the main areas that cause confusion to me. All those checks and plaids seem to appear on suits or sport coats. So, other than puppytooth which you mentioned, what other wedding tie options do you like?

 

Personally, I am not a fan of many repp ties, so I tend to gravitate towards solids and neat patterns.

 

Shepherd's check.

 

Wedding tie is pretty simple: solid color or small-scale weave in the aforementioned patterns. Dense repeating geometric jacquard weaves that you don't usually see on florals.  Color combinations of silver, black, dark navy. E.g. dark navy/silver puppytooth. We distinguish puppytooth here because houndstooth is simply too large to ever be on a tie.

 

A silver grenadine in fine weave or some other kind of silver exotic tie would work for sure.

 

See the link below for a Drake's shepherd's check, considered the ne plus ultra of wedding ties by some on here circa 10 years ago, based on Apparel Arts illustrations. I agree that it is a first-rate tie. Something about a woven jacquard puppytooth tie is a bit coarse to me, the spikes in the teeth look too severe.

 

https://www.drakes.com/handrolled-navy-shepard-check-end-on-end-tie

 

Strictly speaking this is a form of gun check, but it is an exception to the rule given its special association.

 

Compare to this woven puppytooth

 

Which conjures associations of rental tuxes.

 

See Sam Hober's site for some wedding tie inspiration in case you want to descend (ascend?) into more esoteric waters:

http://www.samhober.com/formal-wedding-silk-ties/

 

Solids and rosettes/florals/foulards/neats (pick a name) are fine, but they are on the formal end of the spectrum. I think everyone (myself included) at some point resists repps for their asymmetry and out of vague fear of prep school associations or something else, but once you wrap your head around the fact that they are the classically correct and, perhaps, ultimate way of wearing a necktie casually (arguably on account of their very asymmetry), a world of repp ties opens before you. Not all repps are made equal, of course. Anyway, they are indispensable, and I would certainly recommend repps (they need not be twill) before getting strange ties that resemble jacket and suit cloths.

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Shepherd's check.

 

Wedding tie is pretty simple: solid color or small-scale weave in the aforementioned patterns. Dense repeating geometric jacquard weaves that you don't usually see on florals.  Color combinations of silver, black, dark navy. E.g. dark navy/silver puppytooth. We distinguish puppytooth here because houndstooth is simply too large to ever be on a tie.

 

A silver grenadine in fine weave or some other kind of silver exotic tie would work for sure.

 

See the link below for a Drake's shepherd's check, considered the ne plus ultra of wedding ties by some on here circa 10 years ago, based on Apparel Arts illustrations. I agree that it is a first-rate tie. Something about a woven jacquard puppytooth tie is a bit coarse to me, the spikes in the teeth look too severe.

 

https://www.drakes.com/handrolled-navy-shepard-check-end-on-end-tie

 

Strictly speaking this is a form of gun check, but it is an exception to the rule given its special association.

 

Compare to this woven puppytooth

 

Which conjures associations of rental tuxes.

 

See Sam Hober's site for some wedding tie inspiration in case you want to descend (ascend?) into more esoteric waters:

http://www.samhober.com/formal-wedding-silk-ties/

 

Solids and rosettes/florals/foulards/neats (pick a name) are fine, but they are on the formal end of the spectrum. I think everyone (myself included) at some point resists repps for their asymmetry and out of vague fear of prep school associations or something else, but once you wrap your head around the fact that they are the classically correct and, perhaps, ultimate way of wearing a necktie casually (arguably on account of their very asymmetry), a world of repp ties opens before you. Not all repps are made equal, of course. Anyway, they are indispensable, and I would certainly recommend repps (they need not be twill) before getting strange ties that resemble jacket and suit cloths.

 

Thanks again for taking the time to respond. In regards to the repps, maybe the fact that you consider them the quintessential "casual tie" is part of the problem. I generally wear ties only with suits, not quite CBD, but close, and I've never thought they looked good in this context.

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I really dislike a glen check tie. There is some evidence (and push) for these to be a wedding tie, but there are plenty of less crazy options out there for a wedding tie, and glen check is so ubiquitous in suits (and even jackets) that I fail to see a place for it as a tie.
Ties with checks are also a non-starter for me.

Heresy. Silver/grey POW with white shirt and navy suit is classic wedding attire. And awesome.
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Honestly, I don't know what's so odd about those jeans other than the addition of suspender.

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I'm sure this has been answered many times before, but are Henry Carter's ties listed in AUD or USD?

Perhaps @Henry Carter
 might be the one to answer lol!

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AUD

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AUD the last time I ordered, about a year ago.  Means they're selling at about a 25% discount to the USD.

Cheers,

Ac
What those blokes said 😀
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Honestly, I don't know what's so odd about those jeans other than the addition of suspender.

This...screen-shot-2013-06-02-at-12-08-03-pm.png

 

Not that there's anything wrong with that (there definitely is, but wanted to keep my Seinfeld game strong).

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The jeans in the previous picture, and those worn by Jerry Seinfeld, are worlds apart. I'm not saying I like either, but they do not compare. The ones posted earlier are simply average high waisted, relatively slim, jeans. Nothing great or terrible about them.

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Out of curiosity, how do you see them as worlds apart? Sure, Chad's are better fitting (and presumably better made) but they do like pretty similar from my vantage...

 

High waisted, stone washed-esque, slimmish (ish for Jerry) jeans.

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Out of curiosity, how do you see them as worlds apart? Sure, Chad's are better fitting (and presumably better made)

 

You answered the question. :)

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Any thoughts on the versatility of this wool/linen blend sport coat from S&M?

In my head any shade of gray, mid brown, off white trousers all seem like they'd work. 

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^^^ It is too light to be very versatile in my book. However I would think of it as somewhat versatile for spring/summer. Looks like a herringbone, which is nice. Might be very nice with navy, green, or white trousers. Not something that is business appropriate IMO. I'm thinking more garden party, or day at the track worthy.

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Exactly my thinking as well. Definitely casual. Thanks
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