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I scolded the idiots laughing at GS because he doesn't do deadlifts, which may have only been the llama idiot. I also said the BS was going both ways because it was. GS was wrong about things as were you guys in having a very narrow minded view on fitness programs.

I do not want to reinitiate the dispute, but will share that I have been doing various programs for 25 years. I did the hardcore lifting workouts for decades, got huge, have tried various other options and am now doing a program with minimal weight training. In fact, as soon as I had kids old enough to jump on me in various back wrenching ways, I became much more focused on strengthening my core. I've even incorporated yoga into my routine.

There are many ways to get in shape and look good. It's more about what keeps you engaged and can be balanced between wife, kids and job. Once kids came along, there was no time for spending hours in the gym anymore.

So you scolded me a few days ago for having too snippy of a tone for this thread, or something. And here you are straight-up calling people idiots. Nice.

For the record, I'm not as narrow-minded on this subject as you think. I agree with you that there are many ways to stay in shape, look good, and be healthy. However, there are certain undeniable benefits that come only from resistance training. And within the realm of resistance training, it is usually agreed that the most efficient and effective exercises are basic compound barbell/dumbbell movements, the deadlift being one of them. But I never "laughed" at anyone for not doing them, nor do I claim they are required in order to be strong or in shape.
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'nuff said. rotflmao.gif
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Very good gentlemen. Let's move on.

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I will say that this is bar none the most comically entertaining thread I frequent on SF lol
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A few people in my program take them. I'd really rather avoid it (though I cannot read a methodology paper longer than 30 pages without giving myself a minute break, as this post indicates. Computational agent based modeling of emergent multi-level organizational phenomena. Weeeeee). The cool stuff (studies in subjects I am interested in or are relevant to something I'm interested in) I can generally do three in a row without issue.

Took Concerta for a semester as an undergrad. Did little to improve my efficiency, but it did cause my to rub my tongue raw against the back of my teeth. Then I had to smoke to get to sleep.

I think it's just a matter of practice and discipline. Just like working out, the shortcuts are there, but it's better just to do things the right way.

 

Yeah, I have the same issue re: rubbing tongue. I think I might switch to adderal based on what the pshrink suggests. Concerta is aight, but the immediate release stuff was better. It also had the unfortunate side effect of making me tweak out like a maniac and I once spent 2 hours the day before a final looking up exercise equipment on amazon because I made the mistake of looking into that rabbit hole for a moment right after I took it. 

Oh well.


Provigil is supposed to be the closest thing we have to a 'smart' drug right now.

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Noodles thread always delivers. That said, a fitness accountability thread might not be the worst thing in the world. Assuming nobody tells me I need to start doing deadlifts. smile.gif
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You really need to start doing deadlifts
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Your point? If that's where you're getting the idea that I "laughed" at the dude for not doing deadlifts, you're mistaken. I simply thought it was ironic that he was spouting off about being a strength training expert, how strong he is, that he doesn't need to learn anything about it, etc.... and then he asks what a deadlift is. facepalm.gif Again, I never implied that deadlifts are the be-all and end-all of exercises and that everyone must do them in order to be strong. Was just chuckling at the irony.
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Your point? If that's where you're getting the idea that I "laughed" at the dude for not doing deadlifts, you're mistaken. I simply thought it was ironic that he was spouting off about being a strength training expert, how strong he is, that he doesn't need to learn anything about it, etc.... and then he asks what a deadlift is. facepalm.gif Again, I never implied that deadlifts are the be-all and end-all of exercises and that everyone must do them in order to be strong. Was just chuckling at the irony.

Where did I exactly say I am strenght training expert? I was just trying to say that you don't need to do heavy weight lifting in a gym to gain strength. You can chop woods, you can put your car in neutral and push it for a mile :-) you can do judo or wrestling (the strongest guy I know was a judo master that laughed at the idea of pushing weights).

Further, I said you can add muscle mass to your shoulders. I do not think it looks the same as having naturally broad shoulders, but OK. I might be wrong. Genetics gave me narrow shoulders, no amount of swimming could rectify that, even though it gave me enough muscles and strenght.

Noodles said he wanted a "V shape". I said that he might want to concentrate on posture and structure (so, core). Am I wrong?

Anyway, I could be all wrong and ignorant.
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Where did I exactly say I am strenght training expert? I was just trying to say that you don't need to do heavy weight lifting in a gym to gain strength. You can chop woods, you can put your car in neutral and push it for a mile :-) you can do judo or wrestling (the strongest guy I know was a judo master that laughed at the idea of pushing weights).

Further, I said you can add muscle mass to your shoulders. I do not think it looks the same as having naturally broad shoulders, but OK. I might be wrong. Genetics gave me narrow shoulders, no amount of swimming could rectify that, even though it gave me enough muscles and strenght.

Noodles said he wanted a "V shape". I said that he might want to concentrate on posture and structure (so, core). Am I wrong?

Anyway, I could be all wrong and ignorant.

You're not wrong. smile.gif

I didn't mean to ruffle so many feathers or spark the latest round of gym discussion in the Noodle thread. Wait a sec, Noodles himself started it!
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You're not wrong. smile.gif

I didn't mean to ruffle so many feathers or spark the latest round of gym discussion in the Noodle thread. Wait a sec, Noodles himself started it!

Haha. Sorry if I said anything to ofend anyone.

BTW, just finished a perfect sunny day of skiing (telemark). Legs are killing me. Can I skip squats today? ;-)
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Haha. Sorry if I said anything to ofend anyone.

BTW, just finished a perfect sunny day of skiing (telemark). Legs are killing me. Can I skip squats today? ;-)

It's all good. I apologize as well. I re-read the discussion and I kind of came across as an ass.

Enjoy the skiing! I think we can all agree that it's a fun and satisfactory way of getting some exercise. wink.gif
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