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@The Noodles, if you have time and access to selection of retailers (seams to me you do at the moment), I can suggest you try Pal Zileri, either mainline body Z, or Pal Zileri Sartoriale - the ones I own are exactly soft shoulder with very little structure, very little padding, and a bit extended. As for extension, we are talking about centimeters, and it is more meant to (along with some roping) create optical illusion. If you like it, then you can ask your tailor to do it.

post #34772 of 37438

God wants Noodles to get a suit from BnT in Seoul. This, at least, is  what an initiated reading of select Bible passages suggests.

 

(It is based on the numerical relationship between every 23rd Hebrew letter in the Book of Jeremiah and every 145th letter in the Book of Leviticus divided by the sum of the numerical values of the Greek letters in the Septuagint translation of some other Biblical passages. It is a highly esoteric exegesis and I am actually forbidden to explain the details, but you will have to trust me; the message is clear: "Thou, Noodles, shalt have a suit made by BnT tailor in Seoul and thou shalt have no other tailors or suit providers but BnT -- or possibly Suitsupply if thou art really desperate -- until thou have had a suit made by BnT.".)

 

The problem is that God has also given Noodles free will. And a wife who likes expensive purses.

 

God also suggested the bit about "going forth and multiply" that may be interpreted as standing in some conflict with the BnT project. But it is just a way to test his faith.

 

God does not ask for Noodles to sacrifice his firstborn, slay the Philistees or go preach to the Ninevans, He just needs to go to Seoul to get a suit.

post #34773 of 37438
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Originally Posted by PCK1 View Post

Braces > Side-Adjusters

Once you have a well executed pair of trousers intended for wear with braces there is no alternative. 

I agree with this sentiment as long as there is a jacket involved. For trousers that go without a jacket, if you are not comfortable showing your braces, side tabs are a better option.
post #34774 of 37438
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Originally Posted by justinkapur View Post


$3500 for a houndstooth suit made by who?

Bespoke by Field Tailoring

 

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Originally Posted by JezeC View Post
 

Hey Noodles,

 

Just out of curiosity, have you tried bespoke services in Seoul?  I know there are several places that provide this service, so I presume some of them ought to produce decent quality/fit right?

I think pricing is more than reasonable as well. One of my buddies had a suit done while he was in Seoul for about $800 during his one-week vacation there. I haven’t seen the finished product, but from what I’ve heard, he was more than happy with it.

 

Just wanted to let you know, in case you were traveling to Seoul.

besides BnT, I tried visiting tailorable but they had some odd freaking hours. But I think they may be in that price range. I won't be going to Korea until 2017.

 

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Originally Posted by PCK1 View Post
 

I have several Tom Ford suits. 

Can we see some pictures? And is it really Zegna suits that's been rebranded as TF?

 

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Originally Posted by gs77 View Post
 

@The Noodles, if you have time and access to selection of retailers (seams to me you do at the moment), I can suggest you try Pal Zileri, either mainline body Z, or Pal Zileri Sartoriale - the ones I own are exactly soft shoulder with very little structure, very little padding, and a bit extended. As for extension, we are talking about centimeters, and it is more meant to (along with some roping) create optical illusion. If you like it, then you can ask your tailor to do it.

I have burned too much money on jackets with such construction so I am trying to go with structured shoulders.

post #34775 of 37438
On the trouser belt / side tabs / braces issue, some more thoughts (a bit late).

(1) I prefer braces or side tabs with suits. Generally I get trousers made to fit comfortably with side tabs. I've started using braces more after losing some weight and liked the feel. I wouldn't get trousers that can only be worn with braces, though. They may look slightly better executed optimally, but they are much less versatile.

(2) For odd trousers that I anticipate wearing jackets with regularly, I prefer side tabs.

(3) For odd trousers that I do not plan to wear jackets with, I generally prefer belts. I've worn side tab trousers sans jacket and don't mind the look, but there is something about how a belt finishes a look when there is no jacket. It may be an excessive nod towards contemporary standards and I certainly don't claim others should do as I do, but it's become my preference.

I think belt disdain can run a bit high here. It's true that if you are focused on proper fit, and especially if you have higher rise trousers, that belts are less necessary and useful, but if everything fits right, I really don't notice much discomfort.
post #34776 of 37438
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Originally Posted by Celadon View Post
 

God wants Noodles to get a suit from BnT in Seoul. This, at least, is  what an initiated reading of select Bible passages suggests.

 

(It is based on the numerical relationship between every 23rd Hebrew letter in the Book of Jeremiah and every 145th letter in the Book of Leviticus divided by the sum of the numerical values of the Greek letters in the Septuagint translation of some other Biblical passages. It is a highly esoteric exegesis and I am actually forbidden to explain the details, but you will have to trust me; the message is clear: "Thou, Noodles, shalt have a suit made by BnT tailor in Seoul and thou shalt have no other tailors or suit providers but BnT -- or possibly Suitsupply if thou art really desperate -- until thou have had a suit made by BnT.".)

 

The problem is that God has also given Noodles free will. And a wife who likes expensive purses.

 

God also suggested the bit about "going forth and multiply" that may be interpreted as standing in some conflict with the BnT project. But it is just a way to test his faith.

 

God does not ask for Noodles to sacrifice his firstborn, slay the Philistees or go preach to the Ninevans, He just needs to go to Seoul to get a suit.

I am waiting for Prophet Samuel to give a burnt offering before going into battle, errr I mean, BnT but he's really being late. I should change my profile picture to groundhog day

post #34777 of 37438

Zegna used to make tom ford a few years ago, I'm not sure if they still do. It was made to the higher zegna standard (I don't know what the names of their lines are). They do style it differently though, which is what you're after.

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They definitely look different. But this is what Greg said:

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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post

You're certainly better off getting full bespoke by a talented tailor than buying a machine made rebranded Zegna suit for $5k. Just tell the tailor to give a bit more shoulder extension, a slightly longer coat and NOT shape the waist too much.
post #34779 of 37438
You can almost get any tailor in the world for 5-6k. Why go RTW.
post #34780 of 37438
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Originally Posted by Caustic Man View Post

The key to your predicament is to figure out which shoe you would wear when you are feeling fun and confident, and then wear that shoe.

In other words, the shoes are interchangeable?
post #34781 of 37438

Tom Fords suits are made by Zegna. However, the construction and style is completely different from your standard Zegna suit.

 

Nonetheless, you do pay, to a certain extent, for the TF name and style. 

post #34782 of 37438
Any recommendation for Luxire shirting patterns/fabrics that can be worn casual, MC style i.e. with chinos/trousers/odd jacket combos as well as jeans?
post #34783 of 37438
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Originally Posted by masaccio View Post


I agree with this sentiment as long as there is a jacket involved. For trousers that go without a jacket, if you are not comfortable showing your braces, side tabs are a better option.

 

When braces are worn...a jacket must always be worn.

 

Likewise, proper dress trousers should never be worn sans jacket

 

So...its a non-entity. 

post #34784 of 37438
I've heard braces be equated as an almost underwear, and that they should not be seen.
post #34785 of 37438
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

I've heard braces be equated as an almost underwear, and that they should not be seen.

 

Correct. 

 

Except on Wall Street where they are worn to show rank and seniority. 

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