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I should add that in the most formal settings in the German-speaking world someone with two Ph.D.s will still be introduced as "Doctor Doctor."  If a man also was a professor he'd be "Herr Doctor Doctor Professor."

 

Getting uptight about such formalities is, in my experience, mostly a North American thing.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

 


I remember some years ago requesting a written professional recommendation from an English gentleman, highly accomplished in his field.

The letter was intended for a Continental audience, so he signed it "Herr Professor Doktor Doktor xxx".

He showed it to me, winked, and said archly, "they love this kind of stuff."

 

Exactly.

 

Cheers,

 

Ac

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I think my view came off as more anti-academic than intended. Perhaps not so surprisingly, my views were more succinctly put into place by academics!

 

It is more a matter of coming off as an egotist in my view, and I take an extremely hard line on such things. I wouldn't have the slightest issue with someone being introduced as such, but introducing (and, as more aptly stated, insisting upon such) oneself is tiresome to me.

 

However, this comes from someone lucky enough to meet in handshake situations 2 former Presidents, both of whom I referred to as Mr., so take my views with a fairly hefty helping of salt.

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A good amount of PhDs ARE insufferable idiots. Expertise does not necessarily imply intelligence. FWIW I have no desire to go around calling myself doctor, despite my tongue-in-cheek reply to @WhereNext

Nor, for that matter, does expertise in a really small sub-topic imply any sort of more broadly useful knowledge or expertise in one's broader field. I find some PhDs are better at being broad-minded than others.
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If one wishes to call themselves Dr there are far easier ways to go about it than earning a PhD....going to med school, for one. (I kid, I kid).
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Boy, I wish I have that body. What are you, like drop 12?

Shirt looks good IMHO, maybe shorten the sleeves.

Thanks my man. More like a drop 10-11.
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Hey all, enjoyed lurking here for a while, hoping you can help me out. I picked up a grey flannel suit second hand because I liked the trousers. Classic rise, flat front, plenty of room to let out some length and still have a cuff. More than worth the price of the suit.

I wasn't planning on wearing the jacket. The details are nice (2 roll 3, 2 button cuff, sack cut) and the shoulders/buttoning point are great but the lapels seem dated to me. However, I keep seeing some pretty generous lapels here on the forum and thought I would ask your opinion.

What do you think of the lapel size/shape and the gorge height. Not sure if it is the gorge height or the angle of the seam that is throwing me.


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Do a Phd if you "think" you will like it. Hard to know as it is a long journey and the end may not be all that you expected. From an objective, monetary standpoint, definitely does not make sense, but there is more to life and happiness than $
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Nor, for that matter, does expertise in a really small sub-topic imply any sort of more broadly useful knowledge or expertise in one's broader field. I find some PhDs are better at being broad-minded than others.


Too true.

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it is a long journey and the end may not be all that you expected.

 

Very true. I suppose I have the advantage of not expecting it to be anything. I love to do research and to write and I'm willing to put up with a large amount of bother in order to keep doing that. Maybe someday it will no longer be worth it to me, but at least right now, it is.

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However, this comes from someone lucky enough to meet in handshake situations 2 former Presidents, both of whom I referred to as Mr., so take my views with a fairly hefty helping of salt.

Of course, "Mr." is the correct honorific for a President, former or sitting:

"Mr. President"
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Very true. I suppose I have the advantage of not expecting it to be anything. I love to do research and to write and I'm willing to put up with a large amount of bother in order to keep doing that. Maybe someday it will no longer be worth it to me, but at least right now, it is.

 

That's perhaps the only reason to do a PhD, and sometimes even that's not enough.  But as long as you have that desire and know that you can't fill it any easier way, Godspeed. 

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The point of a song isn't to get to the end. The point of a song is simply to sing.

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Again, I'd like to gloat about the job market and pay for management professors. And I'm basically a sociologist with a bit of Econ and psych thrown in. Neener neener, gloat gloat.

Though explaining you can get a PhD management generally elicits scoffs. Also, this is a field where our teaching actually makes students worse people (MBA students demonstrate less pro-social and altruistic behaviors after completing an MBA program than before they entered it). Liberal arts expand the mind. The social sciences expands our understanding. The hard sciences expands our knowledge. Business just, uh, expands itself.

Re: titles. After working at a research university for 15 or so years, my dream job is to teach at Earlham, where professors are all in a first name basis with students due to the Quaker influence.
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I have a friend who is working toward a masters in history and currently works at a museum. His whole purpose for working at this museum is that when he isn't working he tends to drink quite a lot. Drinking quite a lot leads to headaches. Headaches are painful. Therefor he works in order to not get headaches.

 

You see, he doesn't even have the burden of having to pretend like he's always interested in what he does. Nor does he have the disastrous tendency to self identify with his profession. Isn't it funny when one invests the self with things that exist outside it? Suddenly when one criticizes that thing it becomes a criticism of the person. You don't like academics? Well then you must not like me! And why wouldn't you like me? I'm a nice guy after all! You don't like the city I'm from? Why do you hate me so? You must be some kind of fool! 

 

When you approach work, education, and all the titles that go with it with a playfulness all those pretensions can simply fall away. I suppose that is something like what the Society of Friends was getting at. The Quakers were good for something other than oats after all.

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I have a friend who is working toward a masters in history and currently works at a museum. His whole purpose for working at this museum is that when he isn't working he tends to drink quite a lot. Drinking quite a lot leads to headaches. Headaches are painful. Therefor he works in order to not get headaches.

 

You see, he doesn't even have the burden of having to pretend like he's always interested in what he does. Nor does he have the disastrous tendency to self identify with his profession. Isn't it funny when one invests the self with things that exist outside it? Suddenly when one criticizes that thing it becomes a criticism of the person. You don't like academics? Well then you must not like me! And why wouldn't you like me? I'm a nice guy after all! You don't like the city I'm from? Why do you hate me so? You must be some kind of fool! 

 

When you approach work, education, and all the titles that go with it with a playfulness all those pretensions can simply fall away. I suppose that is something like what the Society of Friends was getting at. The Quakers were good for something other than oats after all.

 

Correct. He doesn't have the burden of having to pretend like he's always interested in what he does.

 

But he may have the quite serious burden of alcoholism...

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