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Birdseye is only for suits.

Fresco is what you want for a blazersuit, not hopsack. I have one suit and three jackets in hopsack, and whereas jackets are fine, trousers never hold a crease.

Is the advice regarding hopsack trousers generally true across all facets? Would anyone think weight might make a difference in the ability to hold a crease?

I have a hopsack suit I've been wearing regularly for more than a year. The trousers have zero issues holding a crease.
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I have a hopsack suit I've been wearing regularly for more than a year. The trousers have zero issues holding a crease.

Out of curiosity, what fabric is your suit made up of?
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Weight could be an issue - my suit is a light 9/10oz. The heavier ones could be better. Maybe PatrickR can confirm.
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Mine is heavier. I wish I could tell you more about the fabric, but here's how I do it. I stop by Chris Despos's shop, tell him I want a hopsack sport coat, he shows me what fabric he would use, I approve, and he makes the coat. Then, when I pick it up, he tells me he should also make the trousers because I will like it and use it as a suit, I approve, and he makes it. So now I have a navy blue hopsack suit that, not shockingly, I like and use quite a bit. But at no point along the way do I pay any attention to anything about the fabric other than approving a swatch that Chris already knows I will approve.
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I think Chris showed me that fabric ages ago. It is an incredibly fine hopsack isn't it? If it is the one I remember, I am not surprised it tailored well. On the other hand, with some of the course drapers stuff I have seen... No chance in hell it would hold a crease.

Iirc, the stuff Patrick is talking about could have been mistaken for fresco at a distance.

I think it is fair to generalize on the qualities of various fabrics, knowing that there will probably be exceptions to the rule.
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I have lightweight light grey hopsack trousers that are one of my favorite pair. They hold up well and I've had them for a couple years.
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The hopsack I have is porous and soft. Comfy, and they hold a crease like flannel - decent but not great. I always have to put them in the press after a couple wears.
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The hopsack I have is porous and soft. Comfy, and they hold a crease like flannel - decent but not great. I always have to put them in the press after a couple wears.

That makes sense. Mine is towards the other end of the spectrum.
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This is also very possible


I've had that problem with open quarters – which so often come with the other details not quite right for me.

 

I love hopsack blazers. I have three. I'm not sure hopsack would tailor well as trousers – I've seen very cheap ones at thrift stores, and then I've seen costlier stuff described as hopsack in pictures but not in person.

 

On the flip side, I would not wear a birdseye suit jacket as a blazer. It's not as bad as a pinstripe, or a fine-glen plaid, but it's still a no from me. Maybe if you don't speak the local language and thus people assume you're travelling, they'll forgive it.

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I have lightweight light grey hopsack trousers that are one of my favorite pair. They hold up well and I've had them for a couple years.

 

No problems with pulling and snagging? That's why I don't like hopsack for trousers, but probably it depends on the openness of the weave.

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No problems with pulling and snagging? That's why I don't like hopsack for trousers, but probably it depends on the openness of the weave.

Nope, none at all. I've had to dry clean them more than I'd like too and they still look great. I wear them a ton in the summer.
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Birdseye is only for suits.

Fresco is what you want for a blazersuit, not hopsack. I have one suit and three jackets in hopsack, and whereas jackets are fine, trousers never hold a crease.

Is the advice regarding hopsack trousers generally true across all facets? Would anyone think weight might make a difference in the ability to hold a crease?

 

 

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I have a hopsack suit I've been wearing regularly for more than a year. The trousers have zero issues holding a crease.

Out of curiosity, what fabric is your suit made up of?

 

 

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Mine is heavier. I wish I could tell you more about the fabric, but here's how I do it. I stop by Chris Despos's shop, tell him I want a hopsack sport coat, he shows me what fabric he would use, I approve, and he makes the coat. Then, when I pick it up, he tells me he should also make the trousers because I will like it and use it as a suit, I approve, and he makes it. So now I have a navy blue hopsack suit that, not shockingly, I like and use quite a bit. But at no point along the way do I pay any attention to anything about the fabric other than approving a swatch that Chris already knows I will approve.

 

 

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I have lightweight light grey hopsack trousers that are one of my favorite pair. They hold up well and I've had them for a couple years.

 

 

 

.. one of the all-time epic threads-  Vox and FNB toe-to-toe on hopsack, sanitation workers and the 'noble work of the republic'.

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Birdseye is only for suits.

Fresco is what you want for a blazersuit, not hopsack. I have one suit and three jackets in hopsack, and whereas jackets are fine, trousers never hold a crease.

Is the advice regarding hopsack trousers generally true across all facets? Would anyone think weight might make a difference in the ability to hold a crease?

 

 

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Originally Posted by ericgereghty View Post
 
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Originally Posted by Patrick R View Post

I have a hopsack suit I've been wearing regularly for more than a year. The trousers have zero issues holding a crease.

Out of curiosity, what fabric is your suit made up of?

 

 

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Originally Posted by Patrick R View Post

Mine is heavier. I wish I could tell you more about the fabric, but here's how I do it. I stop by Chris Despos's shop, tell him I want a hopsack sport coat, he shows me what fabric he would use, I approve, and he makes the coat. Then, when I pick it up, he tells me he should also make the trousers because I will like it and use it as a suit, I approve, and he makes it. So now I have a navy blue hopsack suit that, not shockingly, I like and use quite a bit. But at no point along the way do I pay any attention to anything about the fabric other than approving a swatch that Chris already knows I will approve.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Murlsquirl View Post

I have lightweight light grey hopsack trousers that are one of my favorite pair. They hold up well and I've had them for a couple years.

 

 

 

.. one of the all-time epic threads-  Vox and FNB toe-to-toe on hopsack, sanitation workers and the 'noble work of the republic'.


I once attended a wedding as the best man dressed as a sanitation worker:

 


I wish I had known. :confused:

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Originally Posted by UrbanComposition View Post

Birdseye is only for suits.

Fresco is what you want for a blazersuit, not hopsack. I have one suit and three jackets in hopsack, and whereas jackets are fine, trousers never hold a crease.

Is the advice regarding hopsack trousers generally true across all facets? Would anyone think weight might make a difference in the ability to hold a crease?

 

 

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Originally Posted by ericgereghty View Post
 
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Originally Posted by Patrick R View Post

I have a hopsack suit I've been wearing regularly for more than a year. The trousers have zero issues holding a crease.

Out of curiosity, what fabric is your suit made up of?

 

 

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Originally Posted by Patrick R View Post

Mine is heavier. I wish I could tell you more about the fabric, but here's how I do it. I stop by Chris Despos's shop, tell him I want a hopsack sport coat, he shows me what fabric he would use, I approve, and he makes the coat. Then, when I pick it up, he tells me he should also make the trousers because I will like it and use it as a suit, I approve, and he makes it. So now I have a navy blue hopsack suit that, not shockingly, I like and use quite a bit. But at no point along the way do I pay any attention to anything about the fabric other than approving a swatch that Chris already knows I will approve.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Murlsquirl View Post

I have lightweight light grey hopsack trousers that are one of my favorite pair. They hold up well and I've had them for a couple years.

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

 

.. one of the all-time epic threads-  Vox and FNB toe-to-toe on hopsack, sanitation workers and the 'noble work of the republic'.


I once attended a wedding as the best man dressed as a sanitation worker:

 

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 


I wish I had known. :confused:

 

:satisfied:

Studs Terkel would've tipped his hat.

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Do any Noodlers know of a quality brick-and-mortar shoe store in London or environs?  I have a friend who has a foot injury and would really benefit from having a fitting with someone knowledgeable.  Calling all Englishmen!  (@Cleav)

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